[PlsNoBan]

Do you know what the term "burden of proof" means DSM? As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong) the burden of proof generally lies with the person making a claim. The commonly accepted stance is that mages do considerably more damage than shamans in groups. DSM you are making a claim that is opposite of the vast majority of players belief. You may in fact be correct. However, the burden of proof lies solely with you. Your "proof" of your claim revolves around data you gathered from a solo encounter and is not applicable to the question at hand. If you wish to go gather some data under similar conditions as what is being discussed here then come back and present it. We could all take a look for ourselves and evaluate it and determine if you have a point or not. As it stands you have made an outlandish claim and provided questionable at best evidence for it. You have stubbornly repeated the same handful of talking points probably close to 700? times now. It wasn't convincing then and it isn't convincing now. If you're truly interested in making your case and having an honest discussion then it falls on your shoulders to provide actual evidence. No more of this napkin math theoretical bullshit. That's not how real testing works. Go get some real evidence and come talk to us. Maybe you'll be right and we'll all have to apologize and admit defeat. I'm guessing that's not going to be the case and I think a HUGE part of the reason you're unwilling to gather that data is because you know it won't go in your favor. But I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and take an honest look at data that is relevant to the discussion.

Until then you're doing nothing but feeding trolls and copy pasting nonsense. You're basically just a troll right now.