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Old 09-16-2022, 04:12 PM
cyxthryth cyxthryth is offline
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
It isn't rocket surgery indeed.

You keep ignoring the higher DPS in situations where you are not chain pulling easy mobs and not allowing the Shaman to root/rot said easy mobs. The 55 DPS number is literally the most constrained DPS position you can be in.
Do you have a particular amount of experience with "ignoring" that causes you to believe you can speak with such authority on when others "keep ignoring" something?

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It is basically the equivalent of saying Mage's cannot use their pets when doing DPS. Then you declare that Mage's don't have good DPS. It is just nonsense.
The above Quote is simply an example of you sharing your opinion that another post is "nonsense", though - as you have not provided the definition of "nonsense" that you are using - I am not sure what point you think you are making or what fact you think you are refuting.

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A Shaman can do 150 DPS when root/rotting 4 mobs.
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Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Can you please demonstrate this with relevant data/evidence such as parses/video from actual - relevant (to this discussion) - gameplay?
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You still haven't proven how variability in groups will affect Shamans differently than Mages, or how DPS will change under the assumption your group isn't actively hurting your DPS.
You tried to claim:

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Assuming your group plays correctly, you will DPS the same way every time, the same as if you were solo.
and then you simply contradicted yourself by subsequently posting:

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in a group setting, there are too many variables out of your control that can skew the data
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Once you add in outside variables, that changes the DPS equation NOT because of what the class can do, but because of what other players are doing.
Which belief do you currently hold/"argue" hehe? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Please elaborate for the sake of civil discussion.

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
In a fast moving group, both classes won't be able to med as much (but Shamans can Torpor). In a fast moving group, both classes have less opportunity to cast damage spells if kill speed is fast, etc.

You need to provide evidence that the variability in the group is affecting the Shaman more so than the Mage. Otherwise if a group is doing 20% less DPS for whatever reason, that affects both the Mage and Shaman equally. So it is irrelevant.
Your posts content - once again - seems to be attempting to tell others what they "need to do" as if you belive that you have some authority over them. You do not.
Last edited by cyxthryth; 09-16-2022 at 04:17 PM..
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