I posted this on the RNF thread initially, but there were no replies/responses to it. I think poopsocking is inevitable in some form or another. If someone wants a mob (which trak seems to be the soup de jour) they're going to do whatever it takes to get it. If 2 mobs are in window, it's whatever mob is the #1 choice.
An example is VS vs Trak last week. We opted to roll the dice and wait at VS and then move to Trak. It's possible that Trak pops before VS and we miss it. Such is the game you play.
As Karst suggested in the conversation to move to jugg door, you'll just have people pooping at the door. Then you'll have trains, flames, and leapfrogging as everyone scrambles to get back to ledge as it is everywhere else. My vote is just to prevent spawn-socking and leave the rest as is with FTE. It's been like that for a long time now, but became more of an issue when the highest-end targets became hotly contested as opposed to being nearly solo targets. We spent a lot of times cothing down(and watching TR kill or wipe) and trying to race while TR was already camped there and logged in faster. I clearly remember that being the point at which I was told we were going to log at the ledge too, because a coth race can't beat a login race.
Here's what I said elsewhere:
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GMs should make Trak AE Banish to bubble for the first 15 seconds if you aggro. Prevent spawn-socking and promote ledge camping. All I've heard is camping @ a mob buffed when in window since I've been leveled enough to raid. Not just Trak, hear about TR & others at VS, etc. As someone said previously, I thought people buffed/camped @ other targets pre-kunark when a target was very important to them.
If a target becomes less important, the camping will slow or stop. Right now, Trak is #1 for almost everyone because of VP keys, so it's going to remain highly contested for a while.
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If you have 1-2-3-4+ guilds, it won't matter. First one to get in and engage with the right numbers wins. We've spent plenty of times having 40+ people at ledge and not prepared to engage and TR starts to engage. Or we've jumped the gun and wiped. The drama really started when socking spawn and claiming the mob with 15 people. FTE will bite people in the ass and you'll win some or lose some. It's an easy way for a GM to come in and say "yes, you won agro" or not.
This gets more difficult because rules on other mobs(like sev) are no kiting til engaging. You'll still get petitions and require GM interactions unless you had a spawn-location-leash where the dragon was auto-reset if kited or pulled for too long. I'm pretty sure NToV dragons had something of this nature.
Again -- this is all non-classic -- but it could help with some of the server issues to allow for competition. Otherwise just leave it all as it was and deal with socking for a few months. My vote is on FTE and if I want to stay logged in I can, if I don't like the idea of being a raider, can join another guild and be a casual player. People have those options.