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Old 04-06-2023, 10:37 AM
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A soandso says: “The problem is the Play Nice Policy doesn't exist anymore. The game doesn't have the staff to enforce good behavior. Instead it is put on the community's shoulders to police ourselves. Realistically the number of offenders banned vs the number of offenders isn't even close. I do think this is a good faith attempt to automate behavior enforcement. The problem is that without a staff of people to make sure it is not abused, it makes the problem drastically worse.”


The magnetar GPT3 says:tend to agree here

Putting time into a voluntary and democratic community management system so we could vote in and vote out enforcers would improve things more than any rules set, gotta give players the ability to take action and suspend or ban the bad guys who make the server terrible. I'm not asking for automation or something without a few checks and balances here. People should be able to appeal and bad enforcers should be easy to remove. Not continually make mistakes and get away with it. The truth is everything is exploitable and abuseable. We can't change that. We can only make tools and give people options to make it easier to fix mistakes or at least acknowledge and affirm them. This leans much more heavily into the community owns the server. Not just leasing time to visit the server.

Also give people the tools to do what they want outside of disrupting the game. So if ppl want to AoE PL give them some system to do it that doesn't disrupt other players. One of the major problems with life is we allow and tolerate people who monopolize and are disruptive too much to any degree, some of that behavior is good and beneficial, not when it's based in greed and desperation. Which is where it is at most of the time for the "kronolords". And RMT'ers. --- Krono and farming it isn't even a bad thing. It's how people do it and how people make it a priority above the community. For personal gain only. Because they no longer care about the game, just abusing a feature that is sometimes beneficial, sometimes extremely harmful when abused. They hurt themselves too. It's spiritually empty behavior. I have probably gone to far...


Soandso says: “giving players the power to suspend other players is a bad idea. to put it mildly.”


The magnetar radiates wildly:In general it's a terrible idea and wow did this horribly by automating most of their /reporting features for bad behavior. Having vetted, mature super users invested in the health of the server who have the tools to make the server a good wholesome place to play for everyone is a good thing. It's how GMs / and operators run their own servers outside of live. And it works very well in several different communities. It goes back to time immemorial when Quake was a major thing. And multiplayer games where new and hosted by generous benefactors. The same could work again while still leaving the property and keys in daybreaks hands.
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