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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist
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I clearly showed in my video that the Shaman can do all of the tanking for the pets, so you don't need CH to keep the pets up. This means in this group the Shaman is providing at least 30 DPS over a Cleric. DPS will be a bit higher with buffing the Charmed pets with Avatar, and having the pets attack from behind for the entire fight. I just haven't parsed that yet to know the exact amount.
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If you want to talk about a Shaman Torpor tanking, slowing, healing and pulling like you did in that video, that's a different conversation than a Shaman DPSing. Obviously a Shaman can do those things well. But a Shaman cannot do those things and
also DPS at the same time. Casting one nuke per mob is NOT sustained DPS by any reasonable definition. It's the exact reason why nobody invites Wizards to their leveling groups: because even at low levels, casting one nuke per mob is very poor DPS, and this already woeful DPS gets even worse as you level and mob HP increases. The absolute best DPS you can maintain as a Shaman will be from JBB spam + pet, which is around 47 sustained DPS. And the moment you start casting other spells like canni, Torpor, slow, etc... that DPS goes straight into the toilet, because the 32 DPS of the JBB spam is doing the bulk of the work.
A theoretical Enc/Enc/Enc/Shm group with the Shaman tanking could work fine at 60, but would be MUCH weaker from 1-59 and until the Shaman is raid geared and has Torpor. Conversely, a group with a Cleric has access to CH from level 39 on, and the Cleric requires basically no gear to be effective.
The Necro/Ench you trioed with in your video would have done just as well with a skilled 60 Cleric supporting them. Plenty of healing, stuns on charm breaks, can even toss in some undead nukes. They also would have done basically as well with a 55 Cleric supporting them. But if your Shaman was level 55, guess what? It would have been SHIT, because you rely entirely on Torpor for your strategy to be even marginally effective.