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Originally Posted by karsten
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don't put words into my mouth buddy. I keep saying that my version is different than person B's is different than person C's. Tell me, with a straight face, that that's not true.
Have you been reading this thread?
That is in fact precisely what I, and others who run our guild do. If you feel differently about that, then we are once again back at my original and main point.
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Too lazy to break up quotes, but we can continue!
I'm not your buddy, friend. But yes - that's definitely true. However, I wouldn't use that as a reason to not continue to attempt to run on that moral high ground. Which it seems like you're doing with some of your posts. You say you answer to your guild, instead of your guild answering to you. As an officer, I'd just assume you would tell them to take the highest moral road you can find. It feels like you want to say "Because Guild X would leap frog us while we're clearing juggs, we should do it to them".
Perhaps what you're saying is more of "We're going to do it, but when another guild does it to us, we'll retaliate" - and that's where we'd make different decisions, being in the same situation.
I generally have pretty low respect for TMO (they have a few excellent members I've grouped with, and would highly recommend, and some are fun to joke around with, but unfortunately 90% of the ones I've encountered have been very poor players with even worse attitudes...and spelling). The couple of times we ran into them while raiding further cemented that.
On the opposite of that, I used to keep a pretty high respect with TR - while I never really grouped with any of you (well, except ex-guildies who have joined you now, and some people I grouped with before they were in TR), I didn't have any incidents of raids clashing (except one time, that was more of a /facepalm on you guys than anything). But lately, the threads and flaming have dragged you guys down. You guys obviously have done some more questionable things in the nastiness that went on with TMO, to match their tactics, as well as some childish petty arguments. And that was a shame.
FWIW - I know my opinion doesn't mean shit. You guys have no reason to care what some "scrub BDA monk" thinks. But I know it's not just me - but you still probably don't care what others think either, which is your choice.
If you're trying to get a reign back in on things, then I congratulate you for it. There's been one or two times in BDA where I didn't like what we did, and I didn't voice my opinion on it, and felt bad about it. We didn't train another guild or anything like that, but one or two petty things that I wouldn't have done. Now I voice it - and since then, those things haven't happened again. If they happen again in the future, I know at least I tried to prevent it.