[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I responded to your post talking about a shaman in a GROUP doing DPS and you quote me and insert a scenario where it’s a SK duo. See how that’s problematic? I didn’t assume a duo was burning down geos in 30 seconds, lol. However, if killing nobles or bards in HK 30 second kills are very easy.

You do realize the topic is about a Shaman/X duo, correct? I am not inserting a scenario, I am sticking to the topic at hand. The only problem here is other posters keep bringing in off-topic discussions because they are salty about another thread.

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Don’t refer to a shaman as “dps” if with a SK duo. Just dont. By any stretch of the definition it’s a toddler bragging about whose dad is “stronger”. A free 14dps dot is like less than half of the SK pet.

I didn't refer to a Shaman as a DPS class. I said they can do good DPS, which is factually true. I am not sure why people have this idea that only DPS classes can output good DPS. If the numbers show a class can output good DPS, it doesn't matter what their class specification is. An Enchanter isn't designated as a DPS class either, but they do great DPS.

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. 71 dps between 5 mobs is not the same as on one target. By doing that feat of clicking you are speeding up the overall kill time but not as much as you think. Rerooting, heals, just in general it’s a PITA. I had 5 geos in camp with a duo (I was PL’ing) last night, I did not steal one kill from a 56 ranger even with my pet and epic dotting constantly.

DPS is DPS. It is the same thing. Just look at the math. If your group does 100 DPS to a single target, and you have 5 mobs rooted in camp with 4000 HP each, it will take 200 seconds to kill all 5 mobs, fighting them one at a time.

Two rounds of Epic DoTs will deal 2850 damage to each of the 5 targets over 220 seconds if you include the first round's casting time for each Epic click. If your SK does 50 DPS, they only need to fight each mob for 30 seconds roughly speaking while the DoTs are ticking. You just need the SK to switch targets every 30 seconds or so to get the DPS needed to kill each mob including the two rounds of DoTs. The strategy differs slightly, but the results are the same.

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a group of two (lol) if the SK is doing 50dps, their pet is doing 25’ish DPS, and a shaman is doing 14dps and let’s say mixing in JBB’s when possible can bump that to 30dps (would have to be clicking JBB 50% of the time uninterrupted)….guess what? You are still not the dps of the group. Only adding a bit more.

Your Shaman numbers are way off. You are just pulling them out of thin air lol.

Let's say the duo perfers to fight one mob at a time. The mobs in the area have 4000 HP each, and the SK does 70 DPS including the pet.

1. EBolt does 128 damage per tick over 8 ticks if you include the initial 146 damage divided by 8.
2. Hasted level 55 Shaman pet does around 100 damage per tick.
3. JBB does 128 damage per tick over 6 ticks if you cast it three times.
4. Using the numbers above, the Shaman is doing 356 damage per tick. That is 59 DPS.
5. The SK + pet does 420 damage per tick.

The mob would go down in roughly 6 ticks if they are taking 776 damage per tick. The Shaman is doing roughly 85% of the SK's damage using the strategy above. This strategy is similar to what I did when I was soloing with JBB on my Shaman while leveling. It 100% works fine. This is also not including the DPS increase the SK/SK pet get from the Shaman's Haste spell. With haste that probably ends up closing the DPS gap, which means the Shaman is effectively doubling the duo's DPS.

However, a mid 50s Shaman with Epic can do more than 59 DPS by root rotting 4+ targets instead of single targeting with JBB. So you might as well take advantage of that fact if you have Epic, because you will increase your DPS further.