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Originally Posted by fortior
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you can't minmax without a goal to achieve, there is no intrinsic goal you are given in EQ. you have to actually minmax 'for' something, some sort of task or challenge. there's no main quest or achievement list. the closest thing is getting to max level, which barbarians do fastest. getting BiS is another 'obvious' goal which is just time spent raiding, again barbarians win.
if you can kill a mob as an ogre shaman as well as a barbarian shaman, the barbarian shaman is the minmax option because you can do it sooner, since both kill at the same rate, and there's no mob in the game one can kill but the other can't.
a race that takes a penalty to experience in return for a benefit that doesn't translate to killing speed or killing ability is just something you pick for vanity. it's not like iksar monks, who get a huge advantage in regen which helps while xping, or mage, where gnomes can coth effectively while the other races need shrinks.
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It is strange that you admit Iksar Monks are clearly better than Human Monks, but you simultaneously claim that there is no default definition for Min/Max. You can't claim there is no default definition for Min/Max, because then you would have no basis in which to say Iksar Monks are superior. This is why you are wrong in saying there is no default definition of Min/Max.
By admitting Iksar Monks are clearly better than Human Monks, you admit there is an objective best racial for different race/class combinations. You can't have it both ways and say that Shamans don't also have an objective best racial.
You know the definition of Min/Max subconsciously, because you understand Iksar Monks are objectively better than Human Monks. This Min/Max definition is the default definition for all games like Everquest. The default Min/Max definition is to create the best character you can. This means a character that will perform better than it's alternatives when you are level 60 with max gear and all your spells. This is why Iksar Monks are objectively better than Human Monks, because a level 60 BiS Iksar Monk will still have Racial Regeneration, while a level 60 BiS Human Monk would not.
I am not sure why this is so difficult, the Min/Max definition for games like Everquest hasn't changed, and Everquest came out in 1999.