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Originally Posted by fortior
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Monks don't have torpor or slow, theyre a melee class, so there's stuff an iksar monk can kill that an equivalently geared human monk can't. for shamans every shaman with torpor can do the exact same mobs, which is anything they can slow or anything that deals less damage than torpor. If there is a goal ogre shamans can achieve which other shamans can't, the situation would be different, but there isn't.
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You admitted that some racials are better than others. It doesn't matter if the racial bonus is significant or not. The same logic applies. You can rank order any racial in terms of best to worse on any class, even if the racial is only a minor bonus. You can't have it both ways and say racials on Monks can be rank ordered, but racials from other classes cannot be rank ordered.
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Originally Posted by fortior
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disregarding xp maluses as irrelevant is spherical cow stuff, if you do it you basically don't know anything about the game or p99's version of it. P99 is a very competitive classic EQ box, speed is king. if there are two options, and one levels faster, and both can do the same content, the faster option is better
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Leveling quickly is only relevant for a short time on P99, when the server is new or rolling out new content. Neither server has been like that for years. Trying to claim this is still the case on Green or Blue is silly. Even in that scenario you are not picking the Min/Max option, you are instead picking the fastest leveling option to get a specific item. Sure, you can level a Mage to 50 to farm Manastones, but then you have a 50 Mage you probably aren't going to use in Velious for anything other than a CoTH bot.
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Originally Posted by fortior
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You can't say one race performs better than another when there is no content in the game that distinguishes between them, i.e. which one race can do but another can't. my iksar monk can solo things my human monk can't at similar gear levels, it's not the same situation (since the difference is just a bunch of hp regen and ac on a melee)
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You easily can. If an Ogre Shaman can win fights more often than Shamans of other races due to FSI, even if that increase in won fights is small, then they are superior.
Your argument that "it isn't significant" is irrelevant. 2% is better than 1%, just like 50% is better than 30%. This is an objective truth regardless of the difference in percentages.