[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

“I have autism and can’t think abstractly” - ogre

Don’t kid yourself bro. FSI doesn’t help you solo anything better. There’s nothing you can or have solo’d that any other race of shaman can’t or hasn’t also solo’d.

Weren’t you caught on video not being able to root rot 4 KC mobs?

As usual, insults and trolling are the actual reason why you post. You can tell he is just trolling becuse his next post is a long rant on why he thinks I am autistic. Providing fake medical diagnoses online is always sad to watch. He spent more time on that post I bet.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What follows below is the meat of the discussion. I will add the disclaimer that despite my or anyone else’s actual opinion this falls within the realm of the subjective. Depending on what an individual person values, the actual “best” choice will differ.

The core thrust of your post was not to present facts unfortunately. You are simply trying to undermine the idea that racials can be objectively quantified, so you do not have to use evidence to back up your opinions on Regeneration, JBB, etc. That is why what you say is largely just an opinion, because you cannot back it up with anything concrete.

You already know what the objective definition of Min/Max is, because you agree that Iksar Monks are better than Human Monks. Claiming that racial importance is subjective undermines the entire argument that Iksar Monks are better than Human Monks. You are simply changing the definition of Min/Max from class to class, when it suits your opinion.

If people want the facts on Shaman racials, they can take a look at the guide in my signature. It has a lot more evidence and detailed analysis than Troxx's post, which is again just a troll in disguise.

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But please don't imply autistic people can't think abstractly. That perpetuates a harmful stereotype.

I keep telling him to stop insulting autistic people. But he seems content with attacking people who cannot defend themselves.

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like this because its relatively quantifiable.

Generally, the situation would be:
1) Shaman must emergency slow flurry due to tank death
2) Shaman gets aggro after landing a cast slow (which is usually how they'll get aggro)

The shaman is dead before they cast again in this case. There's essentially 0 chance of surviving through a cast, much less the recharge time. However, FSI might let you get 1 additional swing of the shilleagh in, since there is a decent chance the Shaman will be killed in 2 combat rounds instead of 1. Very infrequently a Shaman might survive two combat rounds with a flurry, but usually they'll die on the second one.

There's about a 5% chance of proccing on swing. FSI has to actually work to make the difference of getting that swing. Looking at my logs, it looks like Flurries are bashing about once every 3 combat rounds, so maybe a 1/3 chance of bash. Flurries have about a 75% hit rate, so it has to hit you with that.

I don't have the % chance to get stunned by a bash, but if I count the first 25 bashes I have in my log file, I got stunned 5 times, so will estimate 20%.

That's a 0.25% chance, which is further reduced by:
--Does it resist? I don't know what the resist rates look like.
--Did that make a difference for the raid? If someone else slows it, it doesn't matter, but if that's the last slow attempt you just saved the raid with FSI.

Honestly, if its even a 1 in 1000 chance of saving the raid, that's kind of better than I thought it might be coming into this analysis.

Thanks!