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Old 01-26-2024, 11:43 AM
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- Race doesn't affect what you can solo once 60 with a full spellbook and gear.
Correct.

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- Iksar and Troll are better in groups and raids where the shaman needn't facetank.
This is a bit too simplistic. Iksar/Troll regeneration is often used less in groups/raids, as it is easier to manage HP/Mana, and you may have Clarity, Bard songs, etc. This means more time at 100% HP. Even when you aren't tanking normally, that doesn't mean you will never get hit, or need to occasionally get into melee range of a mob. Belly casters are a simple example. Using https://wiki.project1999.com/Di%60zok_Oracle_Shillelagh to slow resistant mobs faster is another. Slowing mobs also generates hate, which can cause them to agro you.

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- Racial regen is overshadowed by Torpor when cast on oneself and amounts to a relatively small amount of healing done of the course of a solo fight.
Iksar/Troll regeneration is overshadowed by Torpor in all scenarios, solo, group, and raid. No matter what you are doing, 4800 HP per hour is the equivalent of 3-4 Torpors. Casting 3-4 less Torpors per hour is saving 1.5 to 2 minutes of recovery time. Since Torpor Shamans are at 100% HP/Mana out of combat, these numbers are realistically lower, as you are generally not getting the full 4800 HP per hour.

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- Ogre FSI can help prevent streaks of bad luck that could result in the death of a Shaman as well as add to player comfort overall, particularly useful in solo fights.
Correct. FSI is still useful in group and raid scenarios too. All racials are most useful when soloing.

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- Ogres are the worst race for leveling.
Ogres don't have Regen or an XP bonus, this is true. Saying they are the "worst" at leveling is a bit misleading, as a naked Ogre with JBB would probably still get to 60 faster than a naked Iksar without JBB. JBB is saving a lot more mana per hour while leveling than what you can cannibalize from Iksar/Troll Regen. Levels 50-60 generally take longer than levels 1-50 too. If the player in question could twink their Shaman with Epic, then yes Ogres would be the slowest to reach 60. Otherwise Iksar is the slowest at leveling due to lack of JBB.

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- JBB is amazing for leveling and later becomes an optional item that some shamans enjoy using but does not change what you can and can't solo at 60 with Torpor.
Correct. If you aren't an Iksar, you should have JBB at 60 if you can afford it. It helps in a number of scenarios even at 60.

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- No one has demonstrated the actual value of Iksar AC (?)
Indeed. I don't think anybody has done a long term experiment comparing melee damage taken on an Iksar vs non iksar with the exact same gear, AGI, and level.
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