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Originally Posted by Vexenu
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DSM, do you truly believe that a Shaman is the best overall duo with an Enchanter? Or just the best level 60 endgame duo? Or just the best duo for killing certain mobs?
If you affirm Enchanter/Shaman as the overall best, do you concede any circumstances in which you would admit Enchanter/Druid or Enchanter/Cleric to be superior? For example, say you wanted the fastest leveling duo. Or if you wanted a duo that specialized in dungeon crawling. Or if you wanted a duo that was viable with the least amount of gear. Or if you wanted a duo that was the most self-sufficient.
Do you leave room for the superiority of Enchanter/Cleric or Enchanter/Druid duos for any of the above scenarios? Or do you ferociously hold fast to the notion that Enchanter/Shaman is completely superior across the board?
I reach out to you in good faith with this question, and urge you to set aside your well-known bias toward swamp magic as you consider your answer.
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Unfortunately you are assuming I have an extreme bias towards Shamans, and then coloring how you view my posts from that perspective. This has never been true, it is just a straw man.
Please show me the quote where I say "Shamans are the best at everything no matter what". You won't find it.
We have been talking about overall best 4 player caster/priest group the entire time. Did you think otherwise? Just to make sure you don't twist my words, my default assesment of "overall" is mostly endgame focused, instead of leveling focused. This is because the point of leveling is to get to 60, and a four player caster group is already leveling fast. If you want to put a large emphasis on leveling, there are probably all sorts of caster groups who could level faster in certain level ranges. A four player Mage group is probably leveling faster than a four player Enchanter group from levels 1-12, because Enchanters don't get charm until 12. But I doubt anyone cares about optimizing levels 1-12, they are easy already. That is why "overall" is mostly an assessment of how the group works in the endgame.
Of course there are scenarios where other classes are better. Druids are better at killing Ice Burrowers compared to Shamans, as a simple exmaple. I don't see anyone clamoring over Ice Burrowers as a camp people really want to do, so I don't really include Ice Burrower kill efficiency into this discussion. If there was an alternate universe where Ice Burrower killing was the only thing that mattered on P99, 4x Druids would be my choice in that alternate universe.
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Originally Posted by Elizondo
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The OP picked NECRO dummy
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I didn't say otherwise. I said OP's group picked Shaman. You do realize OP asked about four classes, not one? The logic is that OP asked for advise about four classes, so they could pass this information on to the other three players.
OP can correct me if they didn't actually tell the group anything, but are you suggesting you believe that OP asked about four classes just so they could pick their own class without talking to the group?