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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist
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Lol it is uncanny.
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We don't disagree on everything because you are not wrong about everything. I'm happy to agree with you when you are right
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In the rare instance I am wrong or have a poor understanding of a thing I will own up to it. In any instance of me being wrong - my mind is open and changeable. There are a lot of things I don't know - and when it comes to those things you'll usually just see me be quiet and try to learn from those around me who know things I do not. I learn pretty quickly who is a trusted source of information and who isn't.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=408174
I'm really embarrassed to link this but it's a really good example. I was wrong. I was assertively wrong. I face-planted into steaming pile of dung of my very own making. My ego is gonna take a hit as it has sunk down now to page 5 but I'm a big boy and I'll own it. I was using napkin math and there was a variable unknown to me that screwed all my calculations up royally. I was quite wrong about a thing I was quite sure I was right about.
The rub: On p99 you do not get damage bonus DAMAGE from your offhand but the server-side there is an issue where it does give you damage bonus THREAT from offhand swings even though the damage isn't applied.
Posts like this I thought I had it all figured out:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...4&postcount=41
Joke was on me. Offhand swings do generate white dmg potential threat AND dmg bonus threat. I was so completely off base that the mountain I had confidently built and was standing on crumbled under my feet.
Frostreaver was and remains a very strong aggro weapon. I still can't assist with it safely. Now that I have 2h epic I still feel confident in saying that it still holds the edge in threat generation over the epic.
But my math was wrong and Willsapper + Red epic with 255 dex is still stronger than Frostreaver on any content where I'm not silenced.
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I was providing a damage example, it was the first one that popped into my head. 25 HP generally doesn't do anything against raid targets due to how hard they hit for.
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The point you were making still stands. I sometimes make fun of warrior buddies of mine who insist on getting POTG + symbol (+/- ac) buffs instead of just using Aegolism. Aego is 1 buff slot instead of 2/3, requires 1 ask and one action from 1 buffer and has a hugely long buff timer. You give up what ... like 70hp? As a realist .. 70hp isn't gonna make/break a thing. Outside of AoW as an example, if 70hp was the difference then it was a healing issue. Did ya have enough clerics? Was your chain too loose? Was your chain too sloppy (this is typically the issue - a gap or general sloppy chain).
But the counter argument is that ok 70hp MIGHT bake a difference. But in the situation where it DID make a difference, how much would the extra shield ac on the other shield have made the difference? Would it have? Maybe. Maybe not.
Choice 1: 30ac 10str 100hp
Choice 2: 40ac 10str 15 wis 75hp + 5 all saves
Choice 3: 55ac 20str 20wis 50hp
If I had all 3, I would:
-Never choose 1.
-Choose 2 only when resists were an issue and actually resisting (either fully or partially) was important.
-Choose 3 pretty much all of the rest of the time. I'd happily give up 50hp for 25 shield ac or 25hp for 15 shield ac.
If I lived in a universe where I was only ever allowed to use 1 of the 3 shields, it would be choice 2 probably. Balance.
(The real choice I would make most of the time would be none of the above and just use a NToV 2hander)
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Originally Posted by PatChapp
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While not a paladin, I had a heal land on my warrior in an aow fight for 6485 hp. He has 6500hp buffed, it is the closest for sure
This is obviously an outlier, and usually 25hp isn't the difference.
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It has happened before to people. It will happen again. Instances like these are far and away the outliers and not the norm. HP is king on this server but only to a point. There are points where you have to step back and be a realist.