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Old 11-26-2024, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Gear can certainly play a role, a self geared "tank" grouping with a DPS that has twink items could easily lose agro consistently. Even in the end game I have to do a lot of agro management on my rogue to not steal agro over the main tank at raids, even the best geared tank (and sometimes even the knights). When I was leveling the rogue I had to pull back on dps to not overtake agro quite often and that was before I upgraded to weapons beyond the epic.

Raids often do opt to have a knight tank when its not one of the handful of mobs that hit too hard to keep them alive. Same with mostly-BIS monks, they can tank several raid mobs. And that's common place in group content where you often don't have a warrior.

Rooting can be useful for sure, it was pretty common when I leveled in CoM last, as pointed out can be used as crowd control for adds. At the same time its not something I would really preach as a best practice. Eventually you get to a point where root isn't really reliable/viable (requiring either debuffs to land or simply not landable on most raid content). If you become reliant on root to manage agro then eventually when you get to hard content you're likely going to mis-manage agro and negatively impact others (wipe). We all know the shaman who can't manage their threat while slowing, or the wizard that over nukes and pulls mobs on top of your healers. These people become liabilities to raid forces.

Most recently in leveling a shaman I think there is tremendous benefit in solo'ing with a pet without using root. I've found it as a really good way to understand the cadance of putting in threat and how to not overtake agro on the "tank" (pet). Sure I could just root the mob and then slow, debuff, nuke, ect. But not using root helps me learn critical timing of putting in threat so that way when I get into a high stakes situation like a raid I understand the importance of timing when putting in debuffs and getting mobs slowed without pulling agro and dying.

I Mained a rogue for like nine or so years on live and for at least half of those i was #1 on my backwoods server and i have got to influence here: if you get aggro it's your ducking fault.(period) gi don't care if your tank is butt naked fisting the mob; you aren't doing anything but managing positioning via push and pressing one(two?) button over and over. If you can't do the most important job required of dps (don't d(f)ucking die, then try something else.
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