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Originally Posted by loramin
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... demonstrating that you were in fact thinking of the only invis mana. This happened on page 22: even after twenty-two pages, you still didn't understand the primary way the ring saves mana!
So no, that's not embarassing to me in the slightest ... except for the part when I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and apologized (when I in fact called you out correctly in the first place).
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I took another look at this quote and it made me realize Loramin probably didn't read all of my posts between page 2 and page 22. I expected this, but thank you for the confirmation.
Here are two examples of me talking about nuke mana savings on page 4 and page 8:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...7&postcount=37
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist
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You would somehow need to show that the increased risk of losing the mob from breaking as late as possible is not as bad as the extra downtime from occasionally using 2 nukes instead of 1. Usually the loss of the mob is a bigger waste of time/resources than an occasional extra nuke from my experience.
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https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...2&postcount=72
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist
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You also admitted that once you have Lumi Staff or ES arms, you can save the same nuke mana with mana free damage clickies anyway. So you don't need Goblin Ring for the same mana saving levels 49+, when Stealthy Ring is clickable.
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My position has been that the instant cast component of Goblin Ring is not necessary to save nuke mana, and it doesn't provide a special advantage. That is why I've been focusing on the actual mana saving component of Goblin Ring/Ring of Stealthy Travel, which is the ability to cast invis for free.
As a simple example, here is my Enchanter getting 100% XP on both mobs while Charm killing with my level 12 damage spell Choke, which costs 50 mana. My higher level damage spells Suffocate and Chaos Flux cost 100 mana:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYCpsgMYx7A
This video shows that you can get 100% XP on both mobs AND save nuke mana while using spell cast invis. Goblin Ring is not required.
Loramin (and the other posters who agree with him) have to somehow prove that the instant cast component of Goblin Ring actually helped them get 100% XP on both mobs AND helped them save nuke mana. This is a difficult task, because you have to somehow provide evidence that the Goblin Ring did it, even though you can do the exact same thing without Goblin Ring.