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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...highlight=Hate

This was the big hate adjustment patch, which dropped at the end of 2022.

While it doesn't talk about poison counters directly, I remember discussions about poison/disease counters being nerfed/bugged hate-wise. People are saying they don't generate hate. I haven't tested it personally.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s....php?p=3643387

Long.Liam seems to have it right in that second link. That aligns with my understanding and experience of how procs and hate amounts work.

I don't think that poison and disease is bugged just that counters themselves don't add hate. My assumption is that it just goes off the white damage as the hate amount for poison and disease spells/procs/DoTs. Which was likely to balance agro for classes that use big damage poison and disease DoTs (i.e. Shaman).

WESS is a bit unique in that its proc contains poison counters but not really tied to any other outcome, the proc is basically the same exact thing as the bio orb effect, but with some extra poison counters. Any easy test would be compare the hate of the WESS proc to a bio orb click. I bet the hate amount is 100% the same.

Really that means the issue with the WESS isn't a low hate proc, its still an very high hate proc, just has a shitty ratio/high delay compare to other weapons with relatively strong hate procs leading to overall less hate and DPS leading to this item falling out of favor with the tank community.