[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By "many people" you mean you, Samoht, and this Warpath guy. 3 jealous idiots that still don't understand that diminishing this kill because I was buffed is POINTLESS when its completely impossible to do without buffs (as a melee) in the first place.

It's far more than us 3 and nobody is jealous. That is your own projection. You continue to incorrectly think anyone here is "diminishing" the kill. The only thing that diminished what you were trying to do is the old wiki page, as there was no tier difference between using consumables or not. According to what you're trying to say, if you continue to think that way, then your own video is not a relevant achievement.

It's very likely possible to do without buffs. It was explained what would need to be done and you ignored the discussion.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Changing the wiki to suit your own vision and unreasonable expectations does nothing but ruin the legacy of the people that have achieved great things under those already predefined conditions.

It's not my own rules and it's not unreasonable expectations. It's literally how the game is played and what has already been done by many people.

Not changing the wiki is what would result in the legacies of many players being ruined, as their accomplishments would not be recognized. The achievements of people who submitted under the outdated, contradictory tier split is preserved regardless and not going anywhere. There weren't many who bothered submitting in the first place, and there were ZERO melee players who submitted themselves for the top ranks of the challenge.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a reason that melee only are allowed outside buffs, because they are already at a severe disadvantage.

It's the inherent nature of the game that classes have different levels of soloing capability. The challenge has never been and never will be equal between each class. What's relevant is the ceiling that each class can achieve SOLO. Doing something that's easy for an Enchanter can still be relatively impressive when done with a weak solo class.

Monks are NOT at a severe disadvantage compared to all casters. Clerics and Wizards can't solo shit without using the restricted clickies, Mages are very restricted in what they can pull (and with chain pet aggro being broken for the past years on p99, they are extremely restricted), Druids are inferior anywhere they can't charm.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I literally never said any of that.

You did. "I don't want you defending me, you should let it go"

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It most definitely has NOT been solo'd by a monk in this fashion before.

Yes it has. Already happened quite some time ago on Red - a server that does not have item recharging and made it so people weren't regularly trying to use that stuff in the first place.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The dude had to swap to a completely different character and class for the pull / kill

You require ANOTHER PLAYER and MULTIPLE OTHER CLASSES BUFFING YOU in order to complete the kill.

His kill required ONE PLAYER ONLY.

What you did is still considered a "better tier" in terms of the challenge page (see, it's not my exact rules) but in terms of looking at what a SINGLE player could accomplish on their own in a play session, he factually did it by himself only. You did not.