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Originally Posted by bcbrown
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I don't really understand this line of thinking. Melees can still attempt solo kills with outside buffs even if there's a "self-buff only" category. People will still enjoy watching videos of those solo attempts. I watched your video and it was a very impressive solo kill and an accomplishment of which you're deservedly proud.
The idea that it would prevent melee classes from competing also clashes with the fact that only like 6 or so classes can even attempt these fights (without pupper strings) to begin with, right? It's shamans and echanters, then monks and necros, and then what? Bards come to mind, druids on the very few fights where there's an animal to charm, but are there any wizards, rogues, warriors attempting solo artist challenges?
I don't think it makes a ton of sense to have tiered requirements either. Whether it's more challenging to have no outside buffs or no consumables may depend on the class or the fight and the class. Just have it be a flat "solo kill" with a list of optional modifiers a player can add like no outside buffs, no strong clickies, no consumables, whatever. Let the individual viewer decide what they feel is most impressive.
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The main issue posters like myself and OP have is Zuranthium is trying to claim nothing is solo unless it is self buff only and no consumables.
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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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Solo means no outside buffs and no consumables. That's the ENTIRE discussion that's been taking placing in this thread from the start, and was explicitly stated yet again in the post you quoted. Jesus christ.
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Zuranthium is trying to claim OP's video is a group kill with 4 players because OP had 3 outside buffs from 3 different classes lol. Those players did not help OP at all during the kill, the video evidence shows this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ
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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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YOU DID NOT USE ONE CHARACTER. YOU USED 4 CHARACTERS AND REQUIRED A 2ND PLAYER TO LOG ON YOUR ALTS.
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Originally Posted by Zuranthium
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Aegolism is no different than someone directly casting a 1,000-ish point heal on you during a fight. Haste/STR/ATK/DS buffs are no different than someone casting a damage spell that does the amount of damage those buffs provided. The fight has the exact same result in both cases.
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That is obviously a nonsensical position to have.