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Originally Posted by Danth
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Faction plays a huge role in Velious, far moreso than was the case during Kunark. Doing stuff in Velketor, Kael, Skyshrine, Growth, Siren's, etc is much, much easier for players who are non-KOS. A Velious challenge should account for this because it modifies the difficulty so greatly, much moreso than outside buffs do.
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist
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Back to OP's list, I don't think Tantor or Stronghorn should be on the list for the same reason as Ice Burrowers. They do not summon, so you can kite them Indefinitely on any class with a ranged attack, or just keep agro on yourself while you have a pet beat it to death. Any class can use bio orb + https://wiki.project1999.com/Red_Dragon_Tooth .
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I agree about the faction point but at the same time if you're only using zones with no faction you'd basically cordon off a big part of velious. Best way to deal with this would be allowing a completion kill number below the threshold of requiring to be factionned. But factioned zones like chardok were most likely left off the first challenge because they're trivial for factionned people and mostly impossible for KOS. Like, a chanter could try velks golems but no shaman is getting there on their own for 1 attempt and making the crawl was part of the rules of the first challenge.
Another point would be if you need bio orb to make a pull, that's a 150k item. You'll be able to count on your fingers the number of people who will be willing to park that much money for a solo artist challenge. Kinda like how the first one basically required non-chanters to get puppet strings to compete. Nobody is farming red dragon teeth either.
Problem with loraen's list IMHO is it was basically a chanter challenge and the biggest factor for success on most kills was charm not breaking. More accessible kills would be fun and stuff like tantor/ice worms opens it up a little. Could be in the disciple rank though.