[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"So basically you are saying TMO has no right to defend their position only BDA has that right."

So basically you are trying to argue with yourself now. You can deduce whatever argument you would like, but that is not the one I am making. What I am saying is that TMO is not defending their position, which has yet to be actually addressed in anything but comical and contradictory claims, but instead trolling to confuse the fuck out of people who were not there. Two thirds of the people reading this thread will sympathize with 'sorry, it was a mistake. I did not mean to train you." The other third know damn well that taking the FGs to the ledge or simply DIEING INSTEAD OF TRAINING THE KNOWN BDA AT THE LAIR would have been the obvious choice if the intention was not to 'indirectly' allow for TMO to kill ragefire.

Do you really expect people to believe that the members of TMO run around like fucking chickens with their heads cut off when they 'unexpectedly' have mobs attack them.

Do you really expect people to believe that EXPERIENCED RAIDING GUILD members do not consider the implications of their actions when these actions will affect another raid in the same area? Give me a fucking break man - the only thing on your mind is the other guilds move because it is COMPETITION.

"Simple facts (Ill break it down for those with weak minds) 2 clerics were watching for ragefire. 2 guilds went after ragefire. Guild A offered to roll on that ragefire to be fare. Guild B denied that opportunity and Guild A proceeded to kill Ragefire.

The fact that Guild B's cleric died doesn't even matter."

The fact that Guild B's cleric died, in itself, does not matter. The fact that Guild B's cleric was trained - intentional or not - does. This latter fact was admitted to - but thanks for the res after the fact bro. Nice guys.

"The main concern BDA has seems to be proximity to the mob they are tracking. That is an asinine position if don't be a douche is in order why is tracking from the ledge, the zone in, or anywhere a problem. The rule lawyers are coming from BDA's side this time. BDA is claiming you need to poopsock on the spawn point (and old raid rule). I will counter if you are going to be douche's about it you better have 15 on that spawn point."

I do not think this is what they have been saying at all. Yendor was pretty damn explicit, and so were the 'agreed' upon rules he quoted. Go reread them - that is, if you give two shits. Doubtful.

Maybe you should re read them it said if multiple people are camping him roll some dice....which is what TMO decided to do. Case closed super sleuth.