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Originally Posted by Greeedy
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By 'compete' he of course means BDA or Divinity would not engage in training as TMO would. Nor would they be as good as it even if they tried - it requires a certain amount of on-the-job experience that is lacking in those guilds.
That may be competition and it may not - point is, people seem to have very different conceptions of what competition actually is. Until we have a working definition of 'competition', extremely ambiguous posts that only lead to shit fits like this will continue.
If I recall, TMO could only 'compete' in farming lockets for the first few months that the IB/DW merger guild TR completely owned the server. When they had farmed the crap so long and were still waiting for VP to come out, people just did not log on anymore. IB could barely pull 20 people on a good night, so they merged their raids with VD to get the numbers. Honestly Alarti, I would calm down about how wonderful your guild is...whatever 'competition' means, being able to do it after the fact does not make you special in any way.
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Don't forget that when Kunark launched TMO killed the spell merchants, bugging them, to cockblock large swathes of players from even getting to kunark. The merchants either didn't respawn at all, or didn't respawn with the kunark port spells on them.
Then they proceeded to poopsock camps 24/7, not raiding, because they couldn't compete with a real raiding guild.
They cheated, just to go poopsock lowbie camps.