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Old 07-19-2012, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hilikus010 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
why do we have a damn pvp server with 25 people playing thats bullet proof and the main server just crashes 3-4 times a week...
#1. The underlying cause of the crashes over the past month or so has been corrected, we believe. It is important to us.

#2. If 500 players are using something, there is a greater chance a problem will occur than when 25 players use it. Make sense?

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Originally Posted by inyane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I hate when people use the "it's free" excuse.

Obviously they get enough via donations and ad revenue to probably make this a positive gain "business", or I think it would have been killed long ago.

What, you think rogean is footing some 1k a month bill so you all can play? I highly doubt it.
You are ridiculously wrong. Donations barely cover the hosting costs.. and I mean barely. Lots more people used to donate than do now. You would think having two servers would have increased the amount of people who would donate, but that assumption would be wrong.

Also, knowing that I don't make any money from doing this, it's quite offensive to hear someone like yourself say you're tired of hearing the 'it's free' excuse. You see, I get paid to develop things irl, so I know this is fucking free. Else, you would be paying our developer salaries from your subscription fee. You aren't required to pay anything, so it is free.

What isn't free is hosting the server. If you want to help with that please do. If this was a business, I wouldn't tell you to stfu.

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Originally Posted by Harmonium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Do you think Rogean has never dished out of his own pocket for this project?

How much money do you think the average developer on this server makes IRL at their day job?

How many hours do you think these dev's have put into this project?
Pretty much this. I can't speak for all members of the staff, but I 'donate' a portion of my RL time every day recreating classic everquest just so it will exist somewhere. I have spent a ridiculous amount of time and would destroy everyone at Everquest trivia :P

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Originally Posted by Danyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yes there are ass tons of people here that donate. Some that feel compelled to do it almost weekly/monthly. I donated as well a couple times back when I was on PEQ, when I was more financially stable irl. I can't speak for the project's finances, but I'd venture a guess that even with all that plus adsense etc I highly doubt the server/project is making any profit at all. At absolute best it's breaking even.
In the past, we sometimes would have a surplus of donations, which would carry over to help cover off-time months. Now, we do not have that luxury, and the donations barely cover the cost of the server. Profit is absolutely laughable for a couple of reasons. As I have stated in the past, the excess donations go towards future payments for hosting.

If something happened where donations no longer reached the necessary amount for hosting, Rogean and I would cover costs for the server, but I don't know for how long. He might feel differently than myself, but I'm not keen on working for free and paying rent for random people to complain for no reason.