I'm not in the item loot camp btw.
I prefer it and think it owns, but every time we did it on VZTZ, the population dropped because it was too hardcore risk/reward for some people.
Dullah: I agree EQ is a PvE game first. In fact it was a PvE game where they basically just flipped the PvP switch and it happened to work really damn well. Of course almost every MMO since then has ignored that awesomeness in favor of a clean PvE/PvP split and leaning heavily on instancing (ie: death to world pvp), but that's another conversation.
You should really acknowledge that the "counterstrike with elves" players are a sizable contingent (probably the larger one) of the red population. Red servers need both the PvE-first people and the PvP-first people. The classic red servers accommodated both crowds, believe it or not.
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