[Leokaiser]

Yukface, perhaps if you didn't post in such an insultory manner, people may be more sympathetic to your point of view. As it is, any valid points you may have made have been lost to 20 pages of childish back-and-forth bickering. Others may be guilty of this too, but you pretty much set the tone in your inital post (and it doesn't take much to get a rise out of R&F in any case!).

Not intended as a flame, but perhaps you would get a better discussion going in future if your language was a bit more neutral.

The jist of this topic is currently being discussed in a few other threads which are far less polluted with trolling.