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Originally Posted by BeepBeep
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P.S. This is R&F, this whole thread will probably be disregarded anyways.
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And yet both Nilbog and Rogean posted in it. It doesnt mean that they will take anything from it, but i dont see why they would differentiate from R&F or server chat if theres something good that comes out of it. Theres irony in that i took refuge in R&F from the drama upstairs to have a thread where people can flame back and forth and dont pollute the constructive threads and we end up having a nice quiet discussion about the problem without name calling and the flaming is up there.
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The way it is now is fair. If you are at a camp and able to maintain it, you deserve to be able to stay there as long as you please. Yes there are people who abuse this rule, and it sucks. But honestly that's life and you can put them on your shit-list if you want.
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You throw words around like "fair" and "deserve" and youre the one saying that life isnt fair, deal with it? That its fair and they deserve is not an argument in itself. Why is it fair, why do they deserve to camp a mob for 14 hours? Why is it fair that if i log on and only have 2 hours to play some guy afk camping hadden has rights to the mob when hadden is up and not me? Because in theory he isnt supposed to afk camp hadden. In practice, nobody is going to stay alert for hours making sure you pop him the moment he spawns, so its afk camping. In practice, thats how players assume it goes. Thats part of whats wrong with this picture. There should be a rule like if the mob has been up for 30 seconds, you dont even have to ask the afk guy if hes camping a mob. You can just take it.
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The one thing I think we do need to debate about is:
Being able to pass off a camp to a guild member or friend if someone else has been sitting nearby waiting for the camp. The reason is because this creates a camp lock-down and is detrimental to the community imo. This happens all the time on camps like Frenzy with the FBSS and we all know its going to happen with the Fungi camp when Kunark comes out unless we fix this.
Hope some of this made sense. Back to work.
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Thats part of why i think the camping rules dont work, because by allowing people to perma-camp camps, they can say whatever they want about whos next in line even if it isnt true making it a headache for GMs who then have to babysit it all.