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Originally Posted by Metallikus
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The GMs are not even punishing the guild anymore for infractions. They are only doing one week suspensions for individual accounts when someone violates the rules and disrupts a raid. This is getting ridiculous. TMO directly benefits when individuals from their guild disrupt raids of the other guilds. WHy would the juggernaught guild care if one or two of their accounts are sacrificed to keep their guild winning every target? They don't care, they keep the cash flow by buying accounts with the money they get from selling the raid loot they aquire from winning.
TMO HABITUALLY VIOLATES THE RAID RULES AND RAID PLAY NICE POLICY. WHERE IS THE JUSTICE?
What message are the GMs sending when the rules are not enforced?
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Well first off the rules you referred to above are not really the rules that were violated today, which is what I'm assuming you are referring to. Perhaps indirectly, but not entirely true. If a raid target is up, you better expect competition.
Second, we enforce the rules, we take actions. In the past actions were taken against entire guilds and guild leadership, perhaps at times prematurely. This can still be the case, but only in extreme circumstances. Each situation is judged on its own merit, the disciplinary actions discussed with multiple staff members, and appropriate actions taken.
Third, no matter what actions we take, Guild A (violating guild) says they're too harsh, Guild B (victim guild) says they aren't harsh enough. Honestly, we all need to take a step back and investigate ourselves, our motives, and what we want for the Project 1999 server and community. Is it guild drama, loot whoring, and harsh punishment for crimes committed? Or do we want to foster a better game, communicate with each other, and move the server forward in a better way?
The point of staff disciplinary action is not to remove those responsible from the game, and certainly not to remove those indirectly associated. Not in any way is it about that. It's about teaching people that they are doing something wrong, so that they can correct it, redeem their name, and hopefully make the server a better place in the future. At times, they fail to do that, and that's where permanent bans usually sit (as well as some other one-off circumstances).
The point is, it's a long road, and it's not always easy to interpret staff rules, especially during heated races. It's our job to clarify them as much as possible, make sure people understand them, not make mistakes in enforcing them (we're human), and refine them to fit the vision that the owners of the server see for it.
Sorry you feel violated for whatever has occurred today or in the past. We're all working pretty hard at trying to create a better future for the server, even though at times it may not seem that way.
Edit: I edit a lot. Get over it.