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Old 06-18-2010, 04:14 AM
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I think you are discounting the fact that even groups of people that dislike each other are able to function in some sort of 'free' system when facing the right set of incentives and disincentives. I've already observed small amounts of reciprocity under the current regime of rules. For example, I've witnessed both DA and IB zoning out for one another during Vox engagements to try and reduce zone lag for the opposing raid. While your perception of how much people dislike each other around here is probably true, I don't feel like it is the likely case that an FFA system necessarily leads to the anarchy or set of problems you suggest. Even enemies will try to agree to or respect some minimum standard of conduct if nothing more than to maximize their own utilities. You see examples of this out in the world all the time.
This....

For all the people that feels entitled to everything on the server: People who clock more mileage gets more stuff just like in RL. You may feel entitled to get a million bucks in RL but your not gonna get it unless you do something about it. It's really not that hard to understand.

To the GM/Dev Team: I still feel extremely grateful this project was started up despite all the drama happening at the moment. That said however, what are you guys really afraid of if you let the server run as a free market? Trains? KS? Sure there will be a shit ton of whine about it for the parties involved but at the end of the day server will go on. A balance will finally be achieved one way or another WITHOUT your guiding hand on the matter.

The raiding game only affects a small part of the community (just like it was on live). I dare say that average joe leveling up in oasis will not get affected by the shitstorm happening in vox's lair with 3 guilds trying to outdps each other. We don't know how a free market system will be without even trying it.

You keep telling us to grow up and fix our problems, that your too busy to deal with this kind of childish issues. Yet you guys were the ones that decided that you will take an active hand on these issues when you enforced the first rotation between IB and Trans. Look at what's happened since then.

IB beats Trans consistently on boss. Trans petitions that this sucks and we want stuff too. Gm LISTENS (key part) sets PRECEDENT (another key part) to do something about it. Right then and there you could have easily said : "Is this a bug? Did the server crash? Sorry not my problem.. we're busy with game coding stuff not what you can raid."

From that point on, everyone knew that if you send enough petitions/mail to the GM staff that something WILL happen to the issue.

1. Trans losing = rotation

2. 3rd guild wanting to get in on rotation + IB whining about more guilds on rotation = Time variance

3. Inny ganked by X guild = petition by other guild to get something done on the matter.

4. Have a problem? Petition....

5. Camping sucks? Petition....

Seriously, we're not all savages. Sure there's always going to be genuine little dipshits (just like in RL), but for the most part I don't think the p99 world will end in a pile of shit (in a free system). Compromises are born out of respect, right now there is none between the guilds that are feuding over this matter. Let it go free for a month or two and see how bad things will get. You may be surprised at the result.