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Originally Posted by vaylorie
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My original post was calling out inconsistencies in numerous arguments in this thread, albeit in a jovial tone. My point, which you still don't understand, is that the question at the time was not if the big bag happened, nor was it related to the process that eventually developed the theory. The question was about matter coming into existence by means of it being created, not what happened to the matter once it already existed.
Without making any presumptions regarding any religion, one can say that matter was created at some point by something or someone. Stating that this leads into a 'trap' that it could be a creator is an obvious conclusion of something being created.
While I must not have the robust understanding of religious views regarding the way in which the universe works that you do, I can say that it is possible if not probable that matter was at one point created. This to me being the most logical explanation available at the time through science for the appearance of matter. Who or what created it and what happened after that would be a different discussion.
Also notable in your post is the acknowledgement that the universe is constantly changing but that the Big Bang is credible given the observations over a (relatively) short period of time.
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On the contrary, i did understand your point, which is why i said that there currently is no answer to your question.
What I fail to see is your logic for the creation for the pre-big bang conditions. I mean, to me it seems like there is just as much a chance that a "creator" exists as there is for these conditions to just blink into existance.
The only reason for settling on either answer is to not drive oneself crazy with questions.
The only logical answer is that none of us will know anything until we die.