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Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey everybody, join Asgard and you can be guilded with OP. Imagine how fun it would be to have to deal with that guy's irrepressible comic genius w LOL

In all fairness OP is a butt of jokes in our guild. Probably like Rebbon and Trolllillloio are in your guild.

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's another question for Tekilya to try and squirm out of answering: If the roll is based on which guild brings more people to the raid, why is that a good thing? What's to stop one guild from just bringing 100 undergeared, underskilled players who are all a less useful class for the fight? Is a system that encourages guilds to stack the numbers by bringing 20 enchanters to a Statue fight really a great way to avoid the zerging and warm bodying that your guild accuses BDA of?

Our rolls aren't spectrum based, it is simply 3 rolls done highest win ect. Stacking doesn't happen to influence rolls, it happens because just everyone wants to show up, maybe get a shot at some loot, and it helps their respective DKP scores.

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A rotation

Be still my heart, did you guys hear that? He said A ROTATION

In the FAT alliance, yes some items are rotated on, and some mobs are rotated on. For instance we rotate on what guild would get a particular head drop. Also we would rotate on an instance in which a mob would only drop 2 items, guild left out gets first pick on that mob next go around.

As per FA alliance, yes again a few select items are being rotated on. Most part a roll determines beginning loot order. First pick on first dragon, then gets 2nd pick on the 2nd dragon, switching back and fourth during the whole tov clearing.

Yes it can be a bit complicated to keep track of, and yes it can be a bummer if its the other guys getting the item, but its working. It really in the end doesn't matter if the other guys get it, you still continue to work with them as a raid force. Incrementally the raid force gets better. If none of this was found to be an amicable way to meet new challenges and get great gear, we wouldn't still be doing it.

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can try to spin our success in to the fact that 3 guilds (its usually 2) have to play musical chairs over 2 pieces of loot (its usually 3) all you want, but a 50% chance at top pixels and competing with a good guild in good fun ~25-30 times a week beats the hell out of....whatever it is that you guys do.

Pretty much this

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what you're saying is "join Asgard, it's the lesser of three evils- the first evil being not getting loot and the second evil being joining a guild that isn't interested in flogging itself to try to compete at the highest echelon of velious yet"

Sounds depressing that you'd rather live in shit to scrape what you can out of the top end of the raid scene than join a guild that's happy where we are and waiting for the right time to move forward in the infinite endlessness of velious which will be here forever

We have all seen your attempts to compete at the highest echelon of velious. At times it seems rather dubious if you will ever get there at all. You screwed the pooch with killing the rotation (whether you try and deflect that or not, it doesn't matter). Rotation eneded, BDA blamed, BDA greedy and takes all the dragon pixels for themselves. It was poor diplomacy on your part. You took those pixels from players/guilds that could have maybe become future BDA members, and they will never forget this. Inevitably your guild will wither and die because you aren't getting new big pixels to retain talents, and you can't get new talents from the collective CSG because they hate you.

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell you what Spyder, if you're so miserable in Asgard but you're sticking with it because it's better than letting Rampage win, maybe instead of smashing your face into a wall with an FA alliance your guild hates Asgard can team up with BDA. You guys are only acting like the bad guys because you're spending so much time with Forsaken and they're a bad influence. They were sounding the death rattle before you started carrying them. Cut them off, let them die, and maybe BDA and Asgard can work something out.

I don't know why you think FA hates each other, maybe a full 1/3 or more of their guild was at one time from asgard. Detoxx was for a over year Asgards tank, and was an important member back when we got started. Forsaken isn't a bad influence, they have made asgard battle hardened and better/diligent players.