I've been levelling an Erud necro on Green for kicks, and as you can see over to the left, an Erud necro was my main on live. In fact, I spent New Year's Eve 1999 playing Dolalin in Toxx forest, and rung in the new millenium sitting on my ass at a kobold camp. I was a real winner.
So as I've been playing it's been jogging my memory a bit, and here are a few issues:
1) Kobolds in Toxx, pre-Warrens, gave one negative faction hit to "Kobold". Currently they give nothing. Source:
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6/17/99
Another thing I noticed -- when you kill orcs, goblins, gnolls,
etc. in other areas of the game, you get a blast of faction
adjustments, some positive, some negative, perhaps 5 different
adjustments. In Tox, when you kill Kobolds, it says "Faction with
Kobolds decreases". That's it.
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2) There are WAY too many wandering mobs on the bottom half of the zone, heh. And the respawn timers all across the zone on wanderers are way too fast.
Here is commentary about how few roaming mobs there were in the south of the zone and how slowly they repopped:
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1/9/00
2) Not enough mobs.
To me, #2 is the bigger problem--not enough to hunt. You can run around for
several minutes hitting F8 and the only things you'll target are guards,
merchants or stuff too far away to find (or cast on). While #1 is certainly an
incentive only to those who're looking for a challenge (and a potential
detriment to some), if #2 was resolved and there were more mobs, I think we'd
see Toxx become a *much* more popular place to hunt.
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6/17/00
Okay, I started an Erudite Enchanter recently, got her to 3rd level,
and just about went crazy trying to make it to 4th. I could deal with
the darkness, and I learned to navigate the zone. My problem? NO
MONSTERS TO KILL!
I swear, I wandered around for 15 minutes real time and saw nothing to
kill!
Then out of sheer boredom I went over the bridge to the "harder newbie
zone", figuring at least I'd run into something that would kill me. I
wandered around for a while, got a little bit lost, found my way back
to the bridge, and NEVER SAW A SINGLE LIVING THING!!
Now, obviously I found *some* monsters (I found some during this
session, just not many, with huge gaps between them), since I made it
to level 3. The only thing I can figure is that the spawn rate is
related to how many people are in the zone, and since there were no
more than a dozen people on that zone at this time, there were simply
very few monsters spawned?
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8/20/99
Toxxulia Forest: Extremely limited visibility, especially
when it's nighttime and raining. (The other night-blind races have
newbie areas with excellent visibility at night.) Low spawn rate.
Low spawn density. If you look at a map of the zone, the extreme
southern portion of the landmass that's on the same side of the bridge
as the entrance to Erudin is *completely* unutilized. Almost nothing
spawns there. In fact, I'd say this is true for the extreme southern
portion of the zone on both sides of the river. The two static kobold
camps spawn slowly, and the highest level kobold that might spawn is
the 6th-7th level Kobold Sentry, which is rare compared to the lower
level Kobold Scouts, Watchers, and Shamans. So by 7th level, assuming
that you camp the Kobolds, you're only getting XP from about half the
ones that pop up (you'll get XP for about half the watchers and
shamans, and none at all for the scouts). All this for a race that is
reported to have a serious XP penalty. It's no wonder, then, that
most players once they learn the ropes, take their newbie Erudites
over to Qeynos where the spawn rate is significantly higher, more
dense, and easier to see.
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4/11/99
Hey all,
I am now a Level 6 erudite necromancer, and before i was level 5. Well,
as i can tell, my level is going up by killing kobold sentries and
skeletons. But the problem is, there is maybe 1 or 2 of those creatures
roaming around toxx forest, and they respawn every 15-20 mins. And then you
have to worry about other people killing it. Well, my question is, where is
good place to level? Am I strong enough to go to kerra isle, solo? and what
monsters should I kill.
Thanx,
Mel
Coiel (Level 6 Erudite Necromancer)
The League of Swords Guild
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Basically as it is on Green right now, you can level really quickly outside Paineel with all the wandering stuff. This isn't how it was in vanilla. The repop timers on the wandering stuff were quite long.. that 15-20min comment up above wasn't wrong. It was often the case that there would simply be no wandering mobs up at all on the southern section of the zone. This is why people camped the kobold camps. They were reliable, unlike the spread-out and slow-repopping wandering stuff.
It was a *struggle* to reach level 7, let alone 8, in Toxx. Right now you can do it in maybe an hour with all the wandering skeletons and briar snakes and kobolds...
3) Mob populations:
Not a 'bug' per se, just posting what the NPC-List-Level.xls has for Toxx in late 1999, to help with tuning. Here are all the mobs under level 20:
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Zone NPC Name Count Low HP High HP Low Level High Level
tox a_decaying_skeleton 21 16 16 1 1
tox a_fish 40 16 16 1 1
tox a_kobold_runt 24 16 16 1 1
tox a_moss_snake 26 16 16 1 1
tox a_thistle_snake 19 16 16 1 1
tox a_spiderling 2 20 52 1 3
tox a_fire_beetle 3 32 32 2 2
tox a_kobold_scout 4 32 46 2 2
tox a_piranha 3 32 32 2 2
tox a_skunk 10 32 32 2 2
tox a_widow_hatchling 7 32 32 2 2
tox an_infected_rat 7 32 32 2 2
tox a_kobold_watcher 3 48 63 3 3
tox a_briar_snake 12 50 90 3 5
tox a_kobold_sentry 7 50 105 3 5
tox Elial_Brook_pet 0 50 50 3 3
tox Elial_Brook00_pet 0 50 50 3 3
tox Shintar_Vinlail 0 38 38 4 4
tox Poacher_Dell 0 70 70 4 4
tox a_skeleton 5 80 230 4 10
tox a_kobold_shaman 3 84 84 4 4
tox Rungupp 0 84 105 4 5
tox Elial_Brook 0 87 87 7 7
tox a_giant_piranha 0 190 190 8 8
tox a_will-o-wisp 0 220 220 9 9
tox Jonly_Smithin 0 240 240 10 10
tox a_pixie 1 335 375 14 17