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Old 02-13-2020, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by derpcake2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Pretty sure logs contain this info:

- who agroed what
- what attacked who
- who cast what in between of these happenings

Anyway.
Okay, but those three things literally prove nothing in the context of a kill/camp stealing accusation. They also, by themselves, do not prove anything about an intentional training accusation.

For example, if it's a training accusation, you might see that someone aggroed something and it also attacked another player. But you have no idea of knowing if that was an intentional train unless you are there to see it, have video evidence of it, or have the accused player admitting in chat that it was intentional. All you have is someone claiming it was an intentional train, but accidental trains happen all the time and aren't against the rules. You can't look at that log and then just believe the person claiming it was intentional, because then you've unfairly punished someone for something they did totally by accident.

For another example, if it's a kill/camp stealing accusation, those logs also tell you nothing. You could have logs that show Player A killed a mob 12 minutes ago and then 12 minutes later Player B killed the same mob. That tells you nothing about whether any stealing/griefing went on. Player A could've been AFK (therefore losing the camp), they could have run off to do something while waiting for a respawn (therefore losing the camp), plus countless other types of scenarios that those logs alone wouldn't be able to tell you. You need to have video evidence, have the CSR member witness it in person, or have the accused person admit in chat that they were doing something wrong and screenshot/log it.

It's been this way going all the way back to 1999.