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Old 09-17-2020, 04:29 PM
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Baler baler baler....

You don't use the VPN to box. You use the VPN to play ONE toon at a time on ONE IP that doesn't change so you don't get booted. Yes, if you load up your main or an alt, you will be in trouble for boxing - that's irrelevant to the /list.

Player A connects to VPN on 123.123.123 on Account123 on CamptertoonABC, camps list item for 8 hours, logs off VPN back on his his home internet IP to play his other toons or sleep. Player B connects to VPN on 123.123.123 on Account123 on CamptertoonABC and keeps camping list item on the same toon.

Can you understand this? Have you ever used a VPN before? Do you know how a VPN works?

It's the same exact toon-sharing scheme people used for list camps except now they have a $3-5/month VPN to share 1 IP number on the toon they camp list items with. CasualBob has internet issues and resets his internet that just happens to have dynamic IP and he loses his spot on the list.

The next thing you might say is "zomgosh if their computer ID # changes, kick em off." Ok, then they all share 1 crappy laptop on 1 IP via Remote Desktop or w/e people use these days. CasualBob, wants to switch computers so his son can do homework. *boot*

Your proposal won't stop the very people you want to stop - it will have the opposite effect discourage more casuals from doing a /list camp. "Ban all gunz! Will make us safe!" Surething.

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Ivory, First, your assumption is wrong, and I'll explain below, but first let's just assume you're right for fun.

Why not just build 1,000 identical "rollercoasters"? Oh wait, instancing isn't classic.
Why not just make the drop rate 1000x more common? Oh wait, 1000x-drop rate isn't classic.
Why not just hand everyone a manastone? Oh wait, handing out legacy items to every person isn't classic - it's called the EZ Server.

You set up "more people enjoying it" as the standard (specifically, how much YOU think it should drop.) If that is the ultimate standard, why not do the above 3 things: instancing, 1000x drop rate, and/or give one to everyone?

When you answer that question you may just have my answer to your proposal.

It seems you argument is: "Make these unclassic changes to my own personal standard of how EQ should be for I have spoken." Next thing you know we got teleporters instead of boats and cats on the freaking moon.

When you say "equilibrium" you're saying more rides will happen, but due to more people riding the actual wait time won't decrease - it'll stay the same. Sure, we can agree on this. Now... why you're wrong saying "more people will get to enjoy[list item.]"

If Manastone is still a 48-148 hour camp, will someone that didn't camp it before now magically camp it? No.

100 more drops DOESN'T mean 100 more people get to enjoy it. It just means 100 more drops. The main reason people didn't camp Manastone was the camp time + attention cost of AFK checks. You're gonna have the same neckbeards (people willing to camp for that long) super pumped they are getting 2x as many list items. Instead of 4 neckbeards sharing 1 toon, you now got 2 sets of 2 neckbeards sharing 1 toon each. If you got 10 toons on list doing Manastone, maybe you got 30-40 neckbeards behind it all sharing toons - and a few individuals who are total champions. By making Manastone easier, those 30-40 dudes on 10 toons aren't going to disappear, they will get in line themselves.

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