To Pint specifically -
Divinity addressed your #1 Bold type point, train pulling, because it was consistent train pulling by the top two guilds that ended our tenure in ToV. We were repeatedly trained in every safe and unsafe spot that we attempted to kill in. We were in ToV from DAY ONE of Velious and remained there for months, despite being trained at West exit, crawling West, and crawling North. We killed named dragons there from the FIRST WEEK, so please don't presume or imply that because we aren't there now that we weren't there before or that we aren't capable of being there now. We aren't there currently because despite being consistently wiped out by other guilds train pulling, petitioning got us nowhere and nothing was done. Talking to the training guild either got us no response or a lecture about how dare we be in their path. We ultimately decided to stay out of everyone's way, stick to west exit and clear to Telk or Gozz and possibly get a shot at LTK if she spawned during our 4 hour armor farm on Sundays. The arbitrary rule that prevented us from doing that (not killing dragons in same wing you are camped in) left us no other option than to train or be trained. We chose neither and ended our run at ToV dragons in hopes that future talks would lead to a resolution.
Before the above mentioned "wing rule" was in effect, we were killing flurry drakes in north wing when Jorlleag spawned and we cleared to it and killed it. We took similar actions with Telk, Gozz and LTK. So to suggest that there is no other way that ToV can be cleared is simply incorrect.
Threatening to take any action to muscle other guilds out of a zone is nothing new to Divinity. You've already done it successfully, why not do it again?
The bottom line is that there is no reason why any guild should have a monopoly on a zone just to facilitate them being able to train pull their mobs without consequence simply because it's easier and takes less time and certainly not at the expense of another guild that is interested in armor farming or contesting dragons.
I have mostly stayed out of the discussion in this thread, opting to have my say at the summit tomorrow and I would like to think that there is a solution that we can work out amongst ourselves, but you simply can't make the kind of statements you're making and expect positive results.
-Katlin, Divinity
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