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Old 08-09-2020, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yes, that Ragebringer argument is silly. Good thing I didn't make that argument[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I said was most races are human size. Changing from human size to a human sized skeleton does nothing. Big races have plenty of options to shrink themselves as well. The only time where Skeleton Illusion can play a decent role for size changing is small races (going from gnome size to human size, for example). However, the need for that situation is not very common, and many small race classes have other options to deal with this. Most zones that have this problem can be levitated in. ToV was specifically mentioned, since levitate doesn't work in there. However, Gnomes/Halflings/Dwarfs are rarely doing things in ToV that require absolute speed when going over large steps. In these cases, other raid members can help you out. If you are someone who is a dedicated raid player AND a small race, AoN may indeed be worth it for you. That doesn't change the idea that is is overhyped and overpriced for most players[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Big paragraph to say very little, your argument is the price of the item is overpriced because a piece of what makes it useful (size) is only useful to a specific few players. Just like any class-specific item (such as Ragebringer). Don't be purposely dense. You're the one speaking for "most" players, not me.


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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I never said this either. Of course rarity plays a role in price. That doesn't mean the item can't be considered overpriced and overhyped for what you get[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Take Rubicite Armor as an example. It isn't worth the price, and it is overhyped. That doesn't mean I am discouraging people from getting it. I think it is awesome if you have a character in full Rubicite Armor, wearing an AoN. That doesn't change those item's overall utility. The rarity is the cause for the price, not the utility.
Wait, you get at me for bringing up Ragebringer, but then you bring up Rubicite? Huh. AoN is not 200k because it's super rare, it's that in addition to many many other things outlined in this thread and even in some of your posts. In YOUR opinion, it is overpriced and overyhyped. But it's likely you've never even had one.


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I never made any of these arguments either. Not sure where you are getting this from. I never said you need AoN to play. I simply said the price of AoN isn't worth what you get. It is much easier to just fix your faction on most class/race combinations, instead of farming 200-300k for an item that does some faction adjustment for you. You could fix your faction on multiple characters before you reach 200-300k, unless you are very lucky on high value item drops.
You sure do like to make major implications in your argument, only to backtrack when called out on it and claim "I didn't say that!!". More power to you though. Once again, this is all YOUR opinion. I'm simply outlining how useful it is for SOME race class combinations. And on top of that, it's extremely rare. And on top of that some more, it's also a nifty fashion item. Just because the actual uses aren't worth it to you, doesn't mean it's overpriced and overhyped. Hell, it's likely the majority of the server doesn't even know about it's faction boosts nor the hitbox change so how in the hell can it be overhyped? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
200k is still overpriced for what you get[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
LOL... yes.. once again, in your opinion.

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I am not discouraging people from getting AoN, or any other rare item whose value is dictated more by price than utility. I am simply saying AoN really isn't that great of an item, when you look at what it gives you, and when you look at what it takes to acquire it.
Almost any utility item on the server is only useful for a few select classes. Once again, this is YOUR opinion and you're trying to speak for the server. I'm sure you'll get one one of these days [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]