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Old 01-28-2022, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You do know that VP keys are acquired by killing "regular mob" camps, right? If a single guild is locking down VP, they are probably monopolizing the Pained Soul camp, for example, to make sure all of their members and alts can get in to VP and kill dragons. Trakanon teeth are only one part of the VP key quest. Admitting there are guilds monopolizing VP on live during 2000 implies monopolization of the VP key camps in 2000 lol. And please do not try to argue that Pained Soul is not a "regular mob" camp because the only thing it drops is a raid specific item. If the exception to the monopoly rule is raid specific items, then idol would be included in that exception anyway, because idol is only really used on a regular basis in raiding.
Trakanon was the bottleneck: no one was failing to get into VP on live because they couldn't do Pained Soul ... they were failing to get in because the top guild on their server could kill Trakanon and they couldn't.

Again, guild's "locking down" top content (ie. entire zones gate-kept by raid mobs) was 100% classic. Guilds trading turns to keep a spawn point monopolized for weeks on end 100% wasn't.

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As for your second point about the GM rulebook, it has nothing to do with P99, because we literally can't get the number of GMs that live had. I am not sure why you think it is relevant. Your earlier point about the /random idea in the GM rulebook relied on a GM being present to arbitrate the /random. If a GM is not present to arbitrate the /random, that entire section of the GM rulebook is not relevant, due to the GM condition not being met. Of course if two players can solve their issue with a simple /random roll, then neither the GM rulebook or the PnP was necessary in the first place, so it doesn't matter if the camp owner rule was in the PnP or not.
That's like saying we don't have shitty servers that come down all the time, so we can only have raid mobs once per whatever-their-timer is. But that's false: the staff implemented earthquakes, which aren't "classic" ... but are clearly "more classic" than having nothing at all.

Similarly here I agree we can't do exactly what the GM guide says ... but that doesn't mean we can't look to it for clarity as to what live was like, so we can do our best to simulate it here.
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