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puts this problem to bed entirely.
I don't see us backing this idea anytime soon because we still really want to encourage guilds to at least try to practice in preparation for a transition. While I'm fully aware this isn't happening right now, that isn't to say it won't in the future - for all we know, there may be a guild getting ready to rock-and-roll any day now. That being said, if 100% of the guilds agreed, we'd almost assuredly do it anyway. The problem is I really don't see a universal agreement as a possibility, so it's probably better to move onto something different.
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We in Europa think its a shame you see it this way Derubael. Moving to a C/R rotation with FFA on sim respawns would allow for true competition on FFA mobs rather than the best rules lawyer winning the fight.
For some reason you think that the reason guilds don't want to move into C is harder competition, but its not - its the environment. Its having to fraps every right, use douchy tactics, spend 16 hrs ducking a mage, to get a fraction of a chance of killing a mob, that we might loose anyway because we are not ready to/skilled at rules lawyering.
On Wednesday we went up to Hate, which was empty at the time, and as we started clearing another guild came up and said they had been here and wiped, and if we could do a joint raid. In the spirit of cooporation we called off the official part of our raid and joined up with said guild for a joined raid, instead of it ending up as a shitstorm - because its pixels. We don't want a shitstorm. We don't want to try and find loopholes in rules, use rules against other guilds, discuss how far away a mage can stand from the spawn point. That is not skills, that is not challenge, its just.....P99 raid scene prior to new raid agreement.
C/R rotation would allow R guilds to gear up slowly, as they are now to prepare for a very different environment in Velious, and FFA on sim respawns would allow us to fairly compete with other guilds (including C guilds) without having to worry about 213 different rules that the behaviour of a few guilds have warranted. Europa refuse to stoop to the current FFA scene, not because we don't want to kill the mobs, but because its not enjoyable, and we play on this server to enjoy it.
If any guild does NOT want this change (C/R and FFA on sim respawns), its only admitting that its because they are not a better raid guild, but just better at rules lawyering and socking, that they get the mobs they do today.
The fact that class R turned into a rotation should tell you a lot about what kind of raid scene we find enjoyable. Its not because we don't want to compete for the mobs, its because we don't want to stoop to the kind of tactcs and douchebaggery time and time again shown on FFA mobs, and we know that some of our guilds inevitable get dragged down to that level as well. We don't want that, its not enjoyable, its not fun.
We have on multiple occasions said that we would love to take part in a conversation about these topics on either your stream, or in a personal conversation, and that offer still stands should you want us.