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Originally Posted by pijan
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I suppose. I more look at it like I was getting help with an epic that will have limited value to the guild. Felt selfish to me.
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I think what a lot of unguilded people don't realize is that guilds are EQ's natural selfishness channeling mechanism.
Everyone in a guild is selfish
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Everyone joins the guild to get gear for their character. Sure they might become friends and do things to help each other outside of raids from time to time, but they don't go to raids for the "fun" or for the "community": they go for the DKP (raid points) and loot (purchased with those DKP).
That's the beauty of guilds: you get scores of people all working together for entirely selfish reasons, but the guild channels that selfishness to let everyone accomplish things they never could on their own.
Snyder43 was dead-on:
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Originally Posted by snyder43
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Join a more casual guild that has a good record of getting people their epics. Kittens, Second Sons, Dawn Believers, Anonymous, etc.
No guild expects all of their members to show up to everything.
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I can't speak for the other guilds, but Anon has only two fixed raid nights a week, plus some sporadic raiding other nights. If you can make time in your life to spend a few hours on just
one of either Wednesday at 5pm PST/8pm EST (Plane of Sky night) or Friday same time (Hot night), then you can selfishly get yourself a suit of Dragon armor and/or some fun Sky gear ... while at the same time unselfishly helping everyone else.
Even if you only make it to just one raid a week, and don't raid at all the rest of the time, then when we do "epic fight nights" (which we do fairly often) I
guarantee everyone will be more than happy to help you get your epic. And then of course after you get your epic you
could always leave ... but I suspect you'll want other gear improvements after that, and what better way to get it than to stick around?