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Old 04-04-2021, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
One of the problems with the SAC is that the rules have changed so much, e.g. the removal of invis pulling but then the addition of assist aggro and so on, e.g. it's very hard to imagine any Shaman soloing Tolapumj the way Svenn did even though they have better gear. When I originally made the list, tagging the queen would result in all 6 guards coming. Pacify lasting forever now is also helpful. So, some things get a little easier and some things get a little harder.

Still, IMHO the Queen should stay where she is. It's just a remarkable play by Liia and its impossible to imagine an Enchanter or Shaman doing it. I see that someone managed to duo the Queen before; I guess Savyy is an Enchanter and Healik is a Cleric? I wonder if the King is duoable as well.

It would be kind of cool to link videos for each class soloing each type. I think Tecmos has done practically all of them on his second enchanter Noman. I self-aggrandizingly edited the wiki a little accordingly, the idea being that for something relatively easily like the armsman we might even see Rogues or something doing it, e.g. by Enchanter (Loraen), Shaman (X), Necro (Y), etc.
First off, thanks for starting the challenge (I'd forgotten/didn't know that you did)! And second, I'd love to see "qualifiers" (eg. "only possible with removed rules" or "only possible with puppet strings" or "clickies required" ... or whatever), or any other relevant details, added to the SOC. Hell, I'd even be in favor of a separate SAC list for each class.

The only thing I disagree with is:

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Still, IMHO the Queen should stay where she is. It's just a remarkable play by Liia and its impossible to imagine an Enchanter or Shaman doing it.
I'm sorry, but that just seems classist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You wouldn't say "we can't mark this mob as soloable because only an Enchanter/Shaman can solo it", so why say that about Clerics?

But again, I think soloing challenging mobs is an interesting/wide enough topic that we could easily make separate lists for each class, and that would be the real solution (vs. having a list with a bunch of mobs that can only be soloed by certain classes).
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