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Old 06-12-2019, 02:02 PM
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There's no real argument to made against a Sweden-like state. So that's why we get these stawman arguments against Hillary Clinton (Throndor/Dino) or stupid arguments that the country is just great (Melon/Dwarflord) and trying to change anything will make it worse.

None of these people are elites and defend a system built to maximize elite profit and leisure at the cost of the lower orders.

Costs are too high, pay is too low, and its not god damn question of personal responsibility or identity politics.