10-28-2020, 03:26 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Cyclades
Posts: 619
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Originally Posted by Akg49
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Originally Posted by kaizersoze
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a lot of similarities between AG / Riot.
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Originally Posted by Akg49
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also anyone else notice how when they made UN channel public it became like 100 times less toxic? Scroll up about 2 weeks and.. yikes
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Originally Posted by Pint
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Someone is going to need to summarize those for the rest of us
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Originally Posted by Akg49
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I think most of those votes for AG's proposal are from Riot members. Pretty popular proposal AG has there.
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Originally Posted by feniin
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I'd be happy with a mash up of Riot and AG's. Freedom's may as well have been written in crayon.
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Originally Posted by Balimon
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AG's most well written and concise, and similar in nature to Riot. Looks like a good place to start negotiating.
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Originally Posted by Fammaden
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Riot proposing a green style jury system when most shit on green bypasses it to settle out of court or petition straight to GM's.
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Originally Posted by kaizersoze
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Gms want less petitions and there isnt much other option lol
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Originally Posted by Akg49
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and Detoxx immediately asks for Rotation Races rofl. Detoxx, these aren't competitive, they exclude all the casuals (this has been shown in Kael for months), and you need to stop hiding behind them. Stop being scared to actually compete, you know, by playing actual Everquest.
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Originally Posted by Fammaden
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Passing it off onto other players from the server to rule on seems incredibly flawed and not likely to reduce petitions. Like I said no one wants to get into some star chamber shit on green they'd rather concede or get the GM's involved, so the same status quo we already have.
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smelled better too... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Originally Posted by Bardp1999
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All petitions get posted into an RnF poll and the online forum community gets to decide, problem solved
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Originally Posted by Akg49
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Meanwhile, Freedom's toxicity is overflowing again in the UN channel, trying to keep casual guilds out, trying to lock up content behind their Rotation Races. Shame.
Focus should be on how to bring together proposals, especially with many people finding much agreement between AG and Riot's proposal right now.
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Originally Posted by kaizersoze
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What is your solution to reduce petitions, if not by council of our peers? The GMs, who are volunteers, are sick of dealing with them week in and week out, but if people are breaking the rules, you can't just let them crap on the server because the GMs dont want to be bothered.
The only other real solution I can think of is when a guild thinks they're wronged, everyone drops the mob, reviews, and a concession is thrown out by the guilty party or people who claimed falsely. But if the punishment is the same as if they wait weeks on end while things are reviewed, no loot is deleted, and it's only 2 mobs they lose, why even bother not going to petition? You might even get away with it even if you did break the rules.
A council might not be perfect, but it could be dealt with far more swiftly and if the party found in the wrong doesn't like it, they could escalate it, but if one party is habitually in the wrong and petitioned, people will take notice in and out of guild. Especially if there are steeper consequences to it.
As for the TOV lockouts, this is Freedom's chance to try to throw AG away like a used condom with a meta that literally only they want. Very short lockouts would be fine to prevent leapfrogging, but Freedom doesn't want that. It's gonna be a LONG winter of not raiding, folks.
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Originally Posted by Tunabros
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anyone got TLDR for all of them?
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Originally Posted by Scalem
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AG and Riot pretty similar also seems to be the fairest/most thought put into it. Freedom is we want pixels and don’t want to share and competition is bad.
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Originally Posted by kaizersoze
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you forgot the part where they're going to dump all the warm body members they think are useless because they wont need them anymore if they have one person who can suicide in for FTE.
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Originally Posted by Scalem
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With how toxic Freedom continues to be its clear they haven’t learned anything. They should remain banned after an agreement is reached. Or at the very least they should be on incredibly thin ice.
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Originally Posted by Scalem
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Yea that’s why I think freedom should honestly just stay perma banned. The server will go on just fine without that toxicity. At the very least the leadership should stay banned and members can rejoin the sever in a couple months.
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Originally Posted by Zyth
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Voted AG because it was the only one that looks like an adult wrote it.
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Originally Posted by Ripqozko
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Waiting on Kittens and TSS proposal to vote.
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Originally Posted by Fammaden
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What is yours now that Galach has roundly rejected the council of peers idea?
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Originally Posted by Bardp1999
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