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Old 07-23-2025, 06:35 PM
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I am honestly just stoked that we're having a gentlemanly conversation about warrior weapons. And debating what's best.

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Old 07-24-2025, 01:40 AM
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DPS and tanks have to work together. Procs are a random factor but one you can’t change. Warriors are still using proc weapons and the good ones have a hot key for their procs. Get the best stuff possible, learn to play your class, let the chips fall where they fall.

You won’t be holding aggro of dps melees with a Reaver without root. With a sham or cleric duo it won’t be a problem. As a raid dps role, it’s a great weapon.

Outside the Frostreaver which is a passable 2h aggro or the epic 2h (but that’s not the ideal configuration outside a couple fights), you use DW for aggro and 2h for dps.
Just want to point out that you can know how to play your class without any procs and clickies. Those are more like handicaps that keep you from learning to play your class.
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Old 07-24-2025, 01:47 AM
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Yes they are. I used SBoZ and Seb Croaking Dirk on warrior, duoed with a shaman. Shaman would pull with slow, and I was able to rip aggro immediately.

Grouped in City of Mist with rogues, and I was still able to keep aggro with just auto attack, the occasional taunt required to snap aggro back to me.

Things are slightly different at level 52 now - Reaver is starting to out DPS the 18 delay weps, but only by like 5 DPS per fight. The Reaver pulls more aggro on misses than the low delay weps, but both setups work well for aggro.

In every exp group (so far) I haven't had a problem with aggro - not saying it's not gonna change, but the 18 delay weps dual wielding totally works for aggro in my experience up to level 52 in velks.
This is why its good to have a mage with earth pet in your party, although they recently nerfed mage pets so they arent casting their spells as often... and of course it has to be a mage that is on the ball and sending their pet in every time. Alot of mages I have grouped with lately barely engage at all and wont even cast damage shields.... Although that could be due to being depressed about their class being nerfed so hard lately...
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Old 07-24-2025, 08:59 AM
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Just never been a big DW fan, tbh.
DW makes you feel like a buzzsaw from 1-50: but yeah, at 50+ it starts to fall behind a juicy 2 hander for both DPS and aggro. I hit a crippling blow for 600 on my level 51 warrior yesterday and it is one of my best accomplishments in this game.
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Old 07-24-2025, 09:12 AM
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In every exp group (so far) I haven't had a problem with aggro - not saying it's not gonna change, but the 18 delay weps dual wielding totally works for aggro in my experience up to level 52 in velks.
From what I understand it gets harder when you're grouped with double backstab ragebringer rogues, which are a dime a dozen. I noticed a lot of monks are twinked to the gills too, not sure if that causes problems for tanks.
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Old 07-24-2025, 09:58 AM
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From what I understand it gets harder when you're grouped with double backstab ragebringer rogues, which are a dime a dozen. I noticed a lot of monks are twinked to the gills too, not sure if that causes problems for tanks.
It shouldn't: if you're grouped with competent players that Feign Death and Evade.

Rogues should evade every cooldown, regardless of aggro. Monks should Feign Death when they get aggro.

BUUUUT when you're talking about "twinked to the gills" monks, I doubt they are competent monk players. My 2 copper, but most twinked monk alts should have rolled a rogue and got it powerlevelled - because they really just like to watch white damage, and really suck overall at being a monk.

I'm never surprised, but always disappointed in how many level 60 with BiS items for their alt toons don't know how to shake off aggro on their twink monks and alt rogues.
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Old 07-24-2025, 01:47 PM
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Why would you shake off aggro on a twink? You got hp and ac… farm those defence skill ups and call tank bad.
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Old 07-24-2025, 03:12 PM
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Just want to point out that you can know how to play your class without any procs and clickies. Those are more like handicaps that keep you from learning to play your class.
Sure, if you want to be ineffective tank and outsource all aggro control to DPS. It’s not going to go well in grind groups and wipe raids.

I’m talking at a higher level of gearing and levels. Not the blue grind ones.
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Old 07-24-2025, 03:36 PM
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Maybe everyone shouldnt twink their alts and it woudnt be an issue? Except warriors. Always twink them.
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Maybe everyone shouldnt twink their alts and it woudnt be an issue? Except warriors. Always twink them.
did you just assume my twinkage?
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