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Old 04-07-2010, 08:36 AM
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http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...t_cheaper.html

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Criminals have gotten better at hacking into unsuspecting computers and linking them together into so-called botnet networks, which can then be centrally controlled. Botnets are used to send spam, steal passwords, and sometimes to launch DDoS attacks, which flood victims' servers with unwanted information. Often these networks are rented out as a kind of criminal software-as-a-service to third parties, who are typically recruited in online discussion boards.

DDoS attacks have been used to censor critics, take down rivals, wipe out online competitors and even extort money from legitimate businesses. Earlier this year a highly publicized DDoS attack targeted U.S. and South Korean servers, knocking a number of Web sites offline.
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DDoS attacks may have cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars per day a few years ago, but in recent months researchers have seen them going for bargain-basement prices.

Nazario has seen DDoS attacks offered in the US$100-per-day range, but according to SecureWorks Security Researcher Kevin Stevens, prices have dropped to $30 to $50 on some Russian forums.
Web 3.0 anyone? What's the solution? If software was run remotely on vast server farms and people's computers couldn't get infected, might this eliminate botnets (and piracy)? This kind of illicit activity will force the system to change, and it might change in ways many people won't like.
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:46 AM
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Makes me wonder... if the person launching a DDoS attack is hitting our servers, are they paying the $30-60 a day to do it? What joe-shmoe has the expendable cash to blow on DDoS attacks just get "lulz"? I just can't imagine wasting that much money per-day on something so stupid. I just don't get it.

And regarding the BlockDOS.net -- I wonder if we could use a service like that for the server and eliminate DDoS attacks? Looked like about $350 / year? Might be worth it if the community can get behind it.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:33 AM
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the cost is to hire someone to do it for you...if you are tech savvy you can do it yourself for free.

ddos software is sketchy. if you noticed, for example, our current datacenter brags on its homepage that it employs ddos software...any one of us can see how effective it has been.

the only thing, imo, that really deters someone from doing these types of activities online is fear that they may get caught. The FBI DOES investigate ddos attacks...and it DOES have the technology and manpower to track someone down through the zombie IPs to a real person.

The odds, however, of the FBI using any resources on project1999 is slim. We do not "make money" so when our servers go down we aren't losing money---like real businesses do who go to the FBI. We aren't a government agency, nor do we provide some essential service for our clients.

We are a free game server. This puts us about as far down the food chain in terms of criminal activity as you can get. Our attacker, therefore, has no real fear of being caught...no matter how often or how uncleanly he launches the ddos.

The only hope we really have is to play a cat and mouse game with him...we increase our security...he increases his efforts to get though....

OR, we can only hope he comes to his senses and realizes that the people he is punishing are not the people he has an issue with. If Rogean closes down the project who loses?

Its the hundreds of players that built a meaningful community in cyberspace who are being hurt. If the ddos'er is reading the boards I hope you think about this for a little bit.
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Old 04-07-2010, 10:32 AM
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Clearly the person responsible isn't rational, what's to be gained from doing this?

He/she will probably get tired and move on eventually.
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Old 04-07-2010, 11:02 AM
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Well said Fast Boy and omni.

I pretty much hope for the same right now
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Old 04-15-2010, 03:24 PM
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Makes me wonder... if the person launching a DDoS attack is hitting our servers, are they paying the $30-60 a day to do it? What joe-shmoe has the expendable cash to blow on DDoS attacks just get "lulz"? I just can't imagine wasting that much money per-day on something so stupid. I just don't get it.
I've spent $5,000-$10,000 in one night at a club, money means very little to those that have it and $60 doesn't even qualify as pocket change to some. I'm not justifying the attacks, but it's probably some little prick with his daddies credit card that got his feelings hurt, I doubt we will be saved by his lack of funds as cheap as DDoSing is.
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:03 PM
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Makes me wonder... if the person launching a DDoS attack is hitting our servers, are they paying the $30-60 a day to do it? What joe-shmoe has the expendable cash to blow on DDoS attacks just get "lulz"? I just can't imagine wasting that much money per-day on something so stupid. I just don't get it.

And regarding the BlockDOS.net -- I wonder if we could use a service like that for the server and eliminate DDoS attacks? Looked like about $350 / year? Might be worth it if the community can get behind it.
its really rogean launching ddos on his own server then you guys donate all the money to him when the server is down. Rinse and repeat and your up a couple grand easy.
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Old 04-15-2010, 05:18 PM
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its really rogean launching ddos on his own server then you guys donate all the money to him when the server is down. Rinse and repeat and your up a couple grand easy.
I'd imagine even joking about that is not Kosher broskiheiminator
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Old 04-15-2010, 07:16 PM
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its really rogean launching ddos on his own server then you guys donate all the money to him when the server is down. Rinse and repeat and your up a couple grand easy.
Lol you're so retarded it hurts to read your drivel.
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Old 04-15-2010, 07:19 PM
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Lol you're so retarded it hurts to read your drivel.
On these forums it's "dribble" not "drivel" omgz.
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