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Old 05-07-2013, 11:10 PM
Crenshinabon Crenshinabon is offline
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Default Anyone know how the mana regen ticks work?

So I am playing a shaman.
Have to stand frequently to canni.

I have tried to judge when best time to cast is, so I try to cast in between ticks. Thing is sometimes the tick happens when it should but sometimes it seems like it doesnt. On top of that sometimes if I stand after the tick it goes back down. On top of that sometimes it ticks twice.



Whats the deal? Does it even matter when I stand or am I literally losing out on mana by not sitting at the correct times? And if thats the case why does the tick sometimes go away and why sometimes tick twice?

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Old 05-07-2013, 11:28 PM
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Odd, that is an old bug that used to occur when you'd stand up after a tick your mana would go back down. Was that way for an incredibly long time as well. Was absolutely annoying as shit.

They fixed it to my knowledge because I haven't experienced that problem in quite some time. Hmm.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:31 PM
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Odd, that is an old bug that used to occur when you'd stand up after a tick your mana would go back down. Was that way for an incredibly long time as well. Was absolutely annoying as shit.

They fixed it, and I haven't experienced that problem in quite some time. Hmm.
I still have this issue. It's been annoying when I play my Shaman. Usually I wait for the "down-tick", where the mana jumps up by say 24, then down by 8 to match what meditate should be giving me (16). But even that doesn't seem to be correct sometimes, as sometimes the following Cani cast only nets me something like 4 mana (thus negating the 16 from meditate).

I'd be curious to hear from people who don't have an issue with meditate.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:33 PM
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Wish I knew how I got mine to correct itself to share. Been so long since I had that issue, and it just stopped outta the blue.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:09 AM
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I still have this issue. It's been annoying when I play my Shaman. Usually I wait for the "down-tick", where the mana jumps up by say 24, then down by 8 to match what meditate should be giving me (16). But even that doesn't seem to be correct sometimes, as sometimes the following Cani cast only nets me something like 4 mana (thus negating the 16 from meditate).

I'd be curious to hear from people who don't have an issue with meditate.
You nailed it. Sometimes it does this also. Just seems super random. Like I can even cast canni right before my tick hits, which in theory i would miss it, sit down afterwards and get a tick almost instantly like it picked up where it left off. Other times this does not happen. Seems sooo random... whats the deal?

Anyone know the formula etc? Any gm attention would be so win. Cannot find any real explanation of how ticks work anywhere.
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Old 05-08-2013, 02:08 AM
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I am almost 100% sure this problem mostly effects people with a not so great internet connection. I had this problem for a long time as well as hanging when i tried to zone about 60% of the time.

All seemed to improve greatly when i switched to a more stable reliable ISP. Bell 4G network.
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Old 05-08-2013, 10:37 AM
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I don't even bother trying to time cannibalize with med ticks, partially because of this issue but partially because it just seems silly and semi-exploitative. When I need to cannibalize I just do it all at once, sitting for the one second between casts, then sit back down to med properly.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:23 AM
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My understanding is that the client is assuming you are getting out-of-combat regen and then the server enforces the harsh, classic, reality.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:40 AM
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My understanding is that the client is assuming you are getting out-of-combat regen and then the server enforces the harsh, classic, reality.
On your end you see the tick so you stand up, in the process of you standing up info goes to the server and back, the server says you stood up to quickly and you lose that tick.

Kind of what it sounds like...

anyway on my sham I was sitting about 100% of the time, i had a hotkey to /cast canni sit /cast canni sit. so unless it ticked during my cast id be sitting and get the med regen. Seemed to work but that was well over a year ago.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:47 AM
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My understanding is that the client is assuming you are getting out-of-combat regen and then the server enforces the harsh, classic, reality.
This. So wait for the "downtick" to reset your mana to the correct amount before standing.

1) Sitting. Mana at XXXX.
2) Sitting. Client-side med tick jumps to XXXX + yy.
3) Still sitting. Server-side med tick puts you at XXXX + zz, where zz < yy.
4) Stand.
5) Cast.
6) Sit before client-side med tick.

I believe the game does the meditiation check at both the server and client-side med ticks, so if your latency is large enough that these times are far apart, you may not be able to cast between med ticks successfully because failing either check means you are standing for the purposes of the med tick.
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