Around what lvl will a Cleric benifit from Manastone + C Heal?

[VincentVolaju]

So I know there is a certain point of HP / Mana where a Cleric will get free mana basically from using a manastone + Complete heal. Was wondering if anyone knew around what level that happens at?

[Ele]

Level 39. This is completely based on how many HPs you can max out to make this efficient. Fungi tunic before this is also efficient as well at cutting down med time.

CH costs 400 mana and manastone gives 20 mana for every 60 hp.

To break even on CH mana (not including saves for specialize alteration) you need 20 clicks, which is 400 mana and takes 1200 hp.

If you can do 1261 hp (1 extra click over break even + 1hp to stay alive), then you get 420 mana back total; however, you could easily med that 20 mana back in the ~15 seconds it takes to stone + CH.

Bump up to 2000 hp, and you can get 33 clicks for a total of 1980 hp or 660 mana for a net gain of 260 mana.

[Gustoo]

At low levels manastone + fungi is ultra effective though.

[Ravager]

44 is when it starts to be worth manastoning down and ch-ing because that's when you get resolution and symbol of naltron. Otherwise, fungi and manastone are a very handy combination as it's basically +5 mana per tick, no matter what level.

[webrunner5]

I used to think Fungi, Manastone on a Cleric was the hot setup. Guess what, I don't care if you have 10,000 mana you are still going to run oom at some point in time. There is no such thing as endless pulling unless you have Donal's BP and the Clicky on paper. Not counting the Manastone does not work in Kunark, and will not in Velious zones.

As a Cleric I am sort of glad I run oom so I and the group can take a break. Going balls to the wall is not what I enjoy anymore. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Motec]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I used to think Fungi, Manastone on a Cleric was the hot setup. Guess what, I don't care if you have 10,000 mana you are still going to run oom at some point in time. There is no such thing as endless pulling unless you have Donal's BP and the Clicky on paper. Not counting the Manastone does not work in Kunark, and will not in Velious zones.

As a Cleric I am sort of glad I run oom so I and the group can take a break. Going balls to the wall is not what I enjoy anymore. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shit cleric then.

With a stone, I never ever ever run out of mana. Its just fuckin impossible. Add shissar staff and donals bp and its noobcraft.

If you cant manage to keep mana up on a cleric with a manastone from level 39 onwards you should be playing wow.

Edit: That also includes playing lower level cleric (50ish) nonstop pulling LDC's or efreeti trash. At 60 its just a joke and never go under 20% low hp aggro. Also elixiring self is a very large increase in mana/sec considering you can stone so much in the spell recast delay.

[Langrisser]

Motec shit poster confirmed qq

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Langrisser [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Motec shit poster confirmed qq

You would seem to be correct.

[Motec]

Random people without manastones and clerics and in depth experience posting. Do go on.

[Nirgon]

You can definitely infinite pull with a very twinked cleric + manastone