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Old 02-27-2014, 10:18 AM
Morningbreath Morningbreath is offline
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Default Emergent Gameplay: Is there any left in P99?

I watched some videos on EQNext and had to laugh when the developers talked about how great emergent gameplay is. Here I am playing a server where DOT damage is nerfed because the original Everquest developers jumped in and nerfed emergent gameplay at every turn.

On Live I played a wizard class that had been nerfed to oblivion because nuking is so OP but bards swarm kiting half a zone's worth of mobs? Eh, no biggie.

On P99 the spell aggro is so high that casting snare and a couple nukes can COMPELTELY negate the need for a healer in outdoor zones. From level 29 on, a warrior/wizard combo is completely viable thanks to the spell aggro. It's simple, and very effiicient.

Apart from newbie rogues wielding epics, what other emergent gameplay have you uncovered on P99?
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:51 AM
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If by emergent gameplay you mean what wikipedia says it means (yeah, I wikipedia'd it), which is basically "complex situations in games that arise from interaction of multiple, simple mechanics" ... then newbie rogues wielding epics probably isn't really emergent gameplay... but basically a shitload of other stuff is:

chardok ae groups are a complex situation that is made possible by simple things such as DA spell, feign/gate, chardok having a faction, PBAE spells having no level limit, etc.

bard PL (even with new low-hp changes) again, relies on simple things like unlimited number of targets for PBAE and the huge aggro on snares compared to the damage done by a lower-level PLee

every difficult solo kill on the server results from a bunch of simple things... like a charm, or a slow, or a torpor, or a number of different basic clickies, etc.


That definition on wikipedia is pretty dumb though. Almost everything on p99 is "emergent gameplay" in that it is the result of the interaction of simple things like snare+fear or warrior+ch or tank+rogue or dungeon group+enchanter or whatever. This is also what makes classic EQ so amazing compared to modern shit bruteforce encounters. Classes in modern wow don't interact with each other hardly at all, they just do their individual things while dodging their own circles of fire on the ground. EQ classes do their own thing, but what that thing is varies widely (for most classes) depending on how big your group is and what other classes are with you.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:43 AM
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chardok ae groups are a complex situation that is made possible by simple things such as DA spell, feign/gate, chardok having a faction, PBAE spells having no level limit, etc.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:30 PM
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Lol. They fuck up a pull and wipe and say "ok weve decided that pull counts now pay up." Yea. Ok guy. Im guessing his petition went nowhere
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:47 PM
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Plat hoarding knows no bounds in there. Once upon a time you'd let a monk loot his Chardok pipe... "some" people running the show in there charge the full MQ price for it.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:57 PM
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If you're gonna throw things crazy off topic because you want to bitch and moan about [economy, twinking, PLing, MQs, take your pick], you should at least supply a fun gif as well.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:59 PM
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If you're gonna throw things crazy off topic because you want to bitch and moan about [economy, twinking, PLing, MQs, take your pick], you should at least supply a fun gif as well.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:29 PM
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If you're gonna throw things crazy off topic because you want to bitch and moan about [economy, twinking, PLing, MQs, take your pick], you should at least supply a fun gif as well.
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Old 02-27-2014, 02:36 PM
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I remember some great duo/group times in Chardok, would be nice to get those back.

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