Serious question for GM's

[Bodybagger]

I'm not an important high end raider/pvp'er... I'm no neckbeard, no basement dwelling addict, no one of real consequence... just like I was, and just like all of my friends were back on live at launch. I'm just a guy that plays video games for fun in my free time when I'm not doing anything else... for fun and entertainment, if you can imagine that.

I also enjoy forums... I am o fishing forums for the fishing I do, car forums for the car stuff I do... and this forum for the Elf Simming I do.

What I don't understand... is how the bad people (from what I observe on here) get banned, make other accounts, and keep being bad... or get to come back... is it just some sort of optical illusion or do the awful people just never get kicked out? It isn't as though you're getting subscription money form them and have a reason to put up with them like on classic... are the problem players permanently removed or do they just get to stick around making the box worse for everyone?

And speaking of boxing... what is up with the rampant accepted boxing here? I thought that was a no-no?

Thanks for the fun box,
Bodybagger
(seriously goog guy and curious/concerned citizen of Norrath)

[Milton]

Yeah you're better than the rest of us nerds, also, tl;dr

[gobletsmashing]

where there's a will, there's a way

[Milton]

Oh I read the fishing part, p nice, lets see your catch?

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I love fishing too, I may have miss judged you.

[harnold]

I think ip bans should be given out more frequently at least to weed out some players. Not everyone had the tech saavy or desire to bypass their ip bans.

That said, the gms here enjoy spending time dealing with player drama, just look at the raid scene on blue that they set up. Guild raid suspensions are a common and normal part of the raid scene.They'd rather have drama and people misbehaving otherwise they'd implement a raid system that doesn't require petitionquest.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Milton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah you're better than the rest of us nerds, also, tl;dr

If you feel included in my statement, then yes, you are intended to take offense to it. Taking offense to it means you think you are a problem player and make the box worse. If not, then shut up and go play. Stop pretending you don't have time to read when you are posting and commenting all day. I didn't say anything negative directed towards people for playing a game for fun and social interaction. Nothing at all wrong with that, unless you are an addict and spend way too much time and get too worked up over it in an unhealthy way.

I am just genuinely curious since there seems to be a very defined core of problem players that reoccur over the year or so since I joined and I can't help but wonder, as a sane rational person, why that is...

[loramin]

Originally Posted by harnold [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They'd rather have drama and people misbehaving otherwise they'd implement a raid system that doesn't require petitionquest.

Yes, the only logical explanation is that the GMs enjoy wasting their time moderating players. It couldn't possibly be because, even after years of running this server, they haven't been able to come up with a system that "doesn't require petitionquest" (and doesn't just result in a single guild dominating the server TMO-style).

It must just be that they are masochists.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Milton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I read the fishing part, p nice, lets see your catch?

I love fishing too, I may have miss judged you.

I hit the hardwater for a bit this weekend, all my fishing pals pumping out kids and shit it seems like I fish less and less each year.

[Bodybagger]

I fished a tourney on a powerplant lake Sunday. Had a killer day prefishing Saturday and would've been in money but the big motor went down when battery shorted internally overnight charging.... closest walmart was sold out of suitable replacements... seriously bad times. First of the year and essentially put me out of running for point so I will probably not fish rest of series. more time for elf sim I guess...
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[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not an important high end raider/pvp'er... I'm no neckbeard, no basement dwelling addict, no one of real consequence... just like I was, and just like all of my friends were back on live at launch. I'm just a guy that plays video games for fun in my free time when I'm not doing anything else... for fun and entertainment, if you can imagine that.

I also enjoy forums... I am o fishing forums for the fishing I do, car forums for the car stuff I do... and this forum for the Elf Simming I do.

What I don't understand... is how the bad people (from what I observe on here) get banned, make other accounts, and keep being bad... or get to come back... is it just some sort of optical illusion or do the awful people just never get kicked out? It isn't as though you're getting subscription money form them and have a reason to put up with them like on classic... are the problem players permanently removed or do they just get to stick around making the box worse for everyone?

And speaking of boxing... what is up with the rampant accepted boxing here? I thought that was a no-no?

Thanks for the fun box,
Bodybagger
(seriously goog guy and curious/concerned citizen of Norrath)

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

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Sirks