suggestion - instanced TOV

[Bolix]

I think it would be great if, once Velious gets fully released and sorted, we could have an instanced Temple of Veeshan zone (thinking in particular of NToV)

Pros;
1. more fun for more people
ToV will be the top end raid target for every guild on the server. Everyone would love to raid in it. Say for the sake of argument 12 guilds raid capable of ToV, 1 week respawn, full rotation. This means 4 guilds a month get to raid it, then wait another 3 months before you raid it again. A guild will only get to raid NTOV 4 times a year. If it is fully competitive, then maybe 2 or 3 guilds are raiding it lots more, but the less competitive guilds probably won't even see it once a year.
NToV raids are great fun, make it realistically accessible to 600 people, not 60 people.

2. Drastically reduce petitionquest and lawyerquest
Read the rants and flames board, or even the raid board. It is full of people complaining about contested spawns, new rule sets. GMs I am sure are so bored of hearing about "he pulled but stalled, they trained, the tracker engaged etc.) NToV will be the same, but on steroids. Instanced and immediately this is no longer an issue.

3. Reduce the need for poopsocking
I don't think anyone really enjoys tracking for 16 hours of the spawn window and then coh-ducking to get the FTE.

4. allow for a nice work life balance
Most of the player base are adults with families and jobs. I want to raid NTOV, but I can't log in at 3am on a Tuesday morning to do it because that is when it spawned. My eq life and family life would be so much better if i can plan a 4 hour raid at a convenient time.

Cons
1. Not classic
100% true, it would not be classic. Having said that, on classic servers we would maybe only have between 2 and 5 guilds who would raid NToV. On this server, we have 12+. Our server demography is already not classic.

2. Lots of work for developers
This is maybe the biggest objection of all. Would require lots of work from the developers who are already doing so much work for us for free. I don't have a counter argument to this, just a plea to the developers to try and find the time to do this.

3. not competitive
NToV is the peak raiding zone, so it should be experienced only by the peak players who put in the extra work. Although I admire the dedication and skill of those top players, I think it is a little elitest if the top zone is only accessible by 60 rather than 600 players. The server is there for all of us, not just those in the top guilds. In addition, we can have peak players getting the benefits of their skill and dedication on the non-instanced peak mobs / zones (sleepers tomb, open world dragons, Kael, etc.)

How would it work?
Here is where I run out of ideas. Perhaps each of the 'top' raiding guilds would have their own instance of TOV? With one "open" ToV as well (the open one would allow for the top guilds to race / be competitive for this).

I speak as a casual raider. I would love to be able to raid NToV. I am sure that lots of the other casual raiders feel the same. So I am humbly requesting the developers to consider if this is possible.

Thanks

[Secrets]

no; not classic being the biggest reason against it.

there's plenty of other eqemu servers that cater to what you want.

[Life617]

Its better to think outside the box, people tend to say "not classic" with someting they don't agree with to sweep it under the rug. I cant imagine implementing something like this as being easy.

Also if there werent so many greedy people you probably wouldnt have even had to make this thread. I tend to see the 1% as the people who use the phrase "not classic"

Sometimes you just gotta move on though.

[Daldaen]

I have no interest in ToV content. However I do have interest in Kael, DN, WW, PoGrowth, Icewell, GD, Skyshrine, WL... can you instance those too?

See the issue?

Instancing - Though it was one of the best additions to the game for the reasons you list - Will never occur on this server ever due to neckbeards who would have a heart-attack and aformentioned not classic.

[Tuljin]

Fresh red server

[Blitzers]

Instances suck no no no

[Danth]

I don't like the suggestion because it caters to high-end raiders without addressing the weakness of the rest of the game. If you want to fix EQ, fix it for everybody.

Presently such a suggestion isn't going to get much traction. The folks running the server could put their collective foot down and force the raid guilds to play nice anytime they wanted to, if they so wished--no codebase change required. That they elect not to do so indicates that the server is operating as they want it to. As Daldaen mentions, you'd also have a lot of screaming and gnashing of teeth from those sad folks who derive their entire life's value from feeling like they have more pixels than other players on eq-emulator.

Danth

[Safon]

Fuck off with instancing suggestions

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Tuljin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fresh red server

with item loot

[Tiggles]

Didn't read any of your post.

But go away you casual scum.