How important is hide/sneak on a cleric truly?

Hrothgaar · #1 07-19-2015, 06:09 AM

Hey all,

1.) I am thinking about rolling a cleric and read up a huge amount of opinions about which race / deity to pick but almost all postings were years old and I understand that hide and sneak has been changed since then. As I would pick halfling just for the added utility of these two skills, how important are they truly these days (or in velious) for the group (or later even raid)?

Some posters mentioned the lack of gear (deity gear, robes) for halfling clerics , so I am really unsure if I should pick halfling because it will be a long time (if ever) before I can grab some high-end raid gear to fill in these holes.

What is your up-to-date opinion on this concerning the race/deity?

2.) As my main is a shaman (25) which I love to almost always play in groups, I am thinking about maybe getting the cleric just for some solo "Smiter of the undead" RP theme until my rezzes are meaningful, which race/deity would you advice in this case?
Side-Note: Yes I know that it should be probably the way around as in clerics-group, shaman-solo ;-)

DeadlyReza · #2 07-19-2015, 08:00 AM

I thought it would be ultra important, but have realized getting into the 30s with my cleric that u just haven't used it at all, I mean the reason it is meant to be so good is because we don't get invis, only invis to undead, but seriously I think the diety gear would've been more useful.

Also once you get into raiding it won't matter.

All that matters is that you can wear this.
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http://wiki.project1999.com/Robe_of_the_Azure_Sky

But i myself only want my cleric as a rez bitch and a slot to fill if the raid requires a healer instead of my mage :P

So it really depends if you are going end game with him or not.

And once velious comes it does get a little better
http://wiki.project1999.com/Akkirus%...e_of_the_Risen

But still the winner is this guy
http://wiki.project1999.com/Sal%60Va...be_of_Darkness

So choose wisely and no what and why you are missing out

Pipip · #3 07-19-2015, 08:05 AM

Sneak is such a useful ability. I use it all the time.

But you'll have to deal with people constantly asking you for SoW and ports

Tecmos Deception · #4 07-19-2015, 08:08 AM

I loved having sneak. I used it all the time on my halfling cleric. Buy/sell from any merchant, complete some quests that you wouldn't be able to do because of low faction, etc. You can even sneak tag (I did a few sneak pulls in a chardok royals group once, using the long-range skipper stones you can get from swamp of no hope), though your options for throwing weapons are almost all too short range until Velious.

It hasn't been as nice for getting around, since invis pots are only 10pp per and on blue you can get ring of shadows and larrikan's mask charges for even less. I also don't know how useful it will be in Velious.

But when the tradeoff is that you can't wear robes... meh. So what? So what the best chest in the game for casters is a robe? Everyone will want it, right? Do you plan on having more DKP than everyone else? Do you plan on raiding enough that everyone else gets one so that you can have your shot eventually too? Or are you more likely to be content with a piece of armor and being able to find indifferent merchants anywhere in the world?

DeadlyReza · #5 07-19-2015, 08:08 AM

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Sneak is such a useful ability. I use it all the time.

But you'll have to deal with people constantly asking you for SoW and ports

So true!

Swish · #6 07-19-2015, 08:15 AM

Sneak = any vendor, anytime. Very handy.

It's a shame hide got nerfed, I remember hitting hide in hate on my dark elf cleric after a nasty train and undead mobs couldn't see me either. Camp a cleric? Naw.

Shame that got changed...still handy for afks in non-undead zones.

DeadlyReza · #7 07-19-2015, 08:20 AM

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Sneak = any vendor, anytime. Very handy.

It's a shame hide got nerfed, I remember hitting hide in hate on my dark elf cleric after a nasty train and undead mobs couldn't see me either. Camp a cleric? Naw.

Shame that got changed...still handy for afks in non-undead zones.

I am always so reluctant to try this lol based on the nerf

Swish · #8 07-19-2015, 08:24 AM

Target any living mob that's kos/not "indifferent"... and hit hide.

Con it again and if it's NOW indifferent you're hidden until you click it off or move.

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Hrothgaar · #9 07-19-2015, 09:06 AM

Hehe, thx for all your answers - but I fear my 2 questions still remain open :-/

On question 1:
I am more of looking for an answer if the hide/sneak thing is any important for the GROUP while adventuring.
I dont really care to walk a while for beeing able to vendor.
Also raiding as I wrote above will be a LONG way in the future as I really just started out on p1999 without any twink gear, money and so on. So its just casual mode for a long time :-)

On question 2:
This one would be still open also :-)

Joyelle · #10 07-19-2015, 09:10 AM

It's nice to have but it isn't a game-breaker. I never really had problems at low levels because I kept invis potions with me at all times. Ring of Shadows are baller for those shit-hitting-the-fan moments as well. And of course for general travel the Larrikan's mask always came in handy when I couldn't find a path to avoid mobs.