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Old 10-29-2010, 11:35 AM
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Default Early Monk Weapon Analysis

Did some rudimentary number crunching just to confirm a few assumptions I've made in regards to monk weaponry in classic. Info was based on the fist damage tables from Monkly Business, taking into account the primary hand weapon damage bonus (starting at lvl 28 you get +1 damage bonus every 3 levels).

There's info in the library thread about how to calculate DPS so I won't get into that here, just reporting my findings.

So, not surprisingly, Mod Rod > EBM > Fists in either hand from 1-29.

1- 29: Mod rod main and offhand an EBM

At 30, Mod Rod > Fists > EBM for either hand. So sell your EBM's at 30. Note for min maxers I did notice at level 34 and only level 34 (due to damage bonus) the EBM does outpace fists in your main hand (not your offhand) but only by a very very marginal factor. Not worth the weight in any case. Mod rod is still the best main hand also so no real reason to use an EBM except to not be tied to a mage. And this is irrelevant if you /duel and preserve a corpse every time you log like I do :P

30 - 34: Mod Rod main, Fists offhand. Fists are pretty close to mod rod at this point so you could do fine with ditching the mod rod since your fists are magical at 30. Mod rod is still better by about 5%.

35+: Fists > * in either hand.

tl;dr version:
1- 29: Mod rod main, EBM offhand
30 - 34: Mod rod main, fists offhand
35+: Fists in both hands

Are there any other options for young monks? Also the excel data chart is available if anyone wants.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:39 AM
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Knuckle Dusters.
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:52 PM
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Aren't those from Kunark?
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:53 PM
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:09 PM
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Whitened Treant Fists

Well you can't get them before level 46 so it's not for a "young monk" but they are classic:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=143

(In classic they are 1hb not hand to hand)
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:00 PM
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I remember hearing about 1hb skill capping higher than h2h. Was this just in Kunark and just 51-59? I thought they capped the same at 60.

Moot point I guess since RoK itemization favors weapons and I believe fists came back into style in SoV with h2h based weaponry.
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Old 10-29-2010, 04:54 PM
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Sharkbone Warhammer 8 26 magic 1hb, not lore and doesn't disappear when you log.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:10 PM
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if i remember correctly... knuckle dusters = level 50 fists.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:32 AM
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KD = human level 60 fists iirc (been a long time since i played my monk)

Human monks fists were better than ikky's slightly. When you equipped epic i think your fists became 9/16 or so instead of 14/28.

Trying to remember these numbers from memory from 9 years ago so... if they're wrong it's not my fault.
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:57 AM
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Hab,

I'd be interested in your Excel chart... or if you have it in Google Doc just share the link. My monk currently has 2x EBM's, so I can probably use those until 35 and then sell them for just my fists! Awesomesauce - thanks!
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