Bard Hate and Recent Issues

[Madri]

int rant // Rant starts

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I know this wasn't intentional, but you can see why a lot of bards are concerned about it being that way from recent bugs.;

Game Mechanics: Bard songs only lasting 2 ticks *Should be in Spells Category*;

Spells: Kellin's Lucid Lullaby : Not Mezzing at all only showing emote.;

This thread: Monster Runspeed which applies to everyone.;


Bards now being truly hated on in LFG, some don't but a lot of people are soaking up this unintentional fix.(Where bards are not getting invites and sitting LFG for hours on end. Getting the, "Why don't you go pull whole zones ignorance!"). It seems the community is enjoying this unintended punishment to bards, while the bard players are not.;

Bards that do the 150 mob swarm method was not classic from the hardware stand point not the mechanic one.;


-Patch of Sep 19th 2004 "Bard PBAoE spells will no longer damage targets that are moving, however any other spell effects from the PBAoE spell will still be applied to the targets as usual." Applied by Brentlo.;

-This was where they noticed hardware caught up to allow the whole zone swarm kiting.;



I played a bard from start of EverQuest launch 1999-2013 no matter what is changed the class has to many utilities making it, if played correctly the most OP class in EverQuest.;

This will not change and people have to realized the potential of the bard in groups and solo. They took the ability to swarm whole zones away from us , we started charm swarm kiting. This class will always be able to do things other classes don't because of its utility options. Bard class itself needs a skilled player behind the reins to really see its potential.;

Bards on Live now tank better than Warriors from what i hear.;

P.S. Some bards are assholes like spoiled kids "I have the ability to do this, so it gives me the right to be a total f**khead". This does not apply to all of us.;


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[Kileras]

the nerf to kiting is a huge bummer. P99 loves to min max so you rarely get too far away from the tank/cleric/chanter/monk/rogue/something, and that something is hardly ever a bard.


i am biased, but the run speed bug hurts everyone. pulling without sow, leveling a lowbie char, all of it becomes a lot more dangerous without being able to strafe run. Maybe that shits classic and we have all been suckling at the breast of strafe run for too long.

[Slithor]

Problem is that even with SoW some mobs are just as fast and you have to have SoW plus strafe to outrun them... It's ridiculous.

[Troxx]

The runspeed and bard songs are simply bugged. They will get fixed.

As far as aoe kiting being nerfed? I'd jump for fucking joy. I'd wager 3/4 of the bards over 46 are kite monkeys who suck in groups. The more crappy bards there are out there, the harder it is for the rest of us to get groups (both by direct competition and by leaving bad tastes in the collective mouths of the playerbase).

So yeah - nerf aoe kiting and aoe PLing.

That'd make me a happy panda.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Madri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard class itself needs a skilled player behind the reins to really see its potential.

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[Madri]

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Lol

[modenkane]

first
In classic EQ the skilled bards charm kited
grouping as any class is easy in EQ...most people afk tank and heal.
The don't invite a bard to your group is just some net nerdrage result of people crying about bards kiting.
Wizards can also kite 32 mobs..this is unaffected by any mechanic thats the devs at p99 have failed to fix..or any of your issues about bards..
Why aren't wizards on the don't group don't port list? ..prolly cause wizzies can level to max lvl kiting 8-32 mobs, our dam is not Dot so the mobs get hit full and our snare hits 4 mobs per cast (4x8=32).
Why is there no nurf for wizzies?
I'm guessing that your complaint is that you are now almost forced to group,cause only scrub bards waste their and everyones time pulling 30/40 mobs of even con and taking an hour to kill them...
Skilled bards charm kite.
Playing a bard pretty much means ,just like a wizz, you kite till max level.
Crying about not getting a group as a bard is stupid.
you should have known that there are no groups for bards. not if any other class is available....
Classic EQ.
This said there is no reason to change your ability to swarm kite unless this isn't really trying to be like classic its trying to obey all the cry babies..
If you say your goal is to emulate classic..
- you should not make changes based on what players do and do not like or what as a dev your personal preference is... or change from classic based on YOUR classic experience.. THATS is simply one man setting his plate for dinner and inviting people to watch him eat cause he is lonely eating all by himself.
Than when the guests arrive he says well theres ham and potatoes.. you can have potatoes but only my buddy there gets some ham..
Why invite people...remember people you were invited so that 8 lonely people would have groups to play with..THATS is the only reason thsoi server is public..
So do not expect a classic experience..
Expect the experience that a few peoples bias needed to create to get you to play here so they would not be playing alone..

[Kileras]

Originally Posted by modenkane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first
In classic EQ the skilled bards charm kited
grouping as any class is easy in EQ...most people afk tank and heal.
The don't invite a bard to your group is just some net nerdrage result of people crying about bards kiting.
Wizards can also kite 32 mobs..this is unaffected by any mechanic thats the devs at p99 have failed to fix..or any of your issues about bards..
Why aren't wizards on the don't group don't port list? ..prolly cause wizzies can level to max lvl kiting 8-32 mobs, our dam is not Dot so the mobs get hit full and our snare hits 4 mobs per cast (4x8=32).
Why is there no nurf for wizzies?
I'm guessing that your complaint is that you are now almost forced to group,cause only scrub bards waste their and everyones time pulling 30/40 mobs of even con and taking an hour to kill them...
Skilled bards charm kite.
Playing a bard pretty much means ,just like a wizz, you kite till max level.
Crying about not getting a group as a bard is stupid.
you should have known that there are no groups for bards. not if any other class is available....
Classic EQ.
This said there is no reason to change your ability to swarm kite unless this isn't really trying to be like classic its trying to obey all the cry babies..
If you say your goal is to emulate classic..
- you should not make changes based on what players do and do not like or what as a dev your personal preference is... or change from classic based on YOUR classic experience.. THATS is simply one man setting his plate for dinner and inviting people to watch him eat cause he is lonely eating all by himself.
Than when the guests arrive he says well theres ham and potatoes.. you can have potatoes but only my buddy there gets some ham..
Why invite people...remember people you were invited so that 8 lonely people would have groups to play with..THATS is the only reason thsoi server is public..
So do not expect a classic experience..
Expect the experience that a few peoples bias needed to create to get you to play here so they would not be playing alone..

my fucking brain hurts.

[Champion_Standing]

ban all the bards

[Bilbik]

Originally Posted by modenkane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizards can also kite 32 mobs..this is unaffected by any mechanic thats the devs at p99 have failed to fix..or any of your issues about bards..

How can I kite 32 mobs EQ Mastah? Please explain